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Blues 3 Canucks 1: Character In Question

Ugh. Ryan Kesler mentioned a bubble of positivity in the Canucks' locker room on Sunday, saying that the world is full of negativity and the Canucks were having no part of it. But let's call a spade a spade here...BULLSHIT! I thought Kesler and his line were fine tonight, even though they finished an even zero and 2 assists. They showed a lot of hustle generally. But where in the blue hell was everyone else? The Canucks will rely on the top line for scoring on most nights, but they were hardly a factor tonight, finishing a -3 with 8 shots and no points.

The Blues' power play finished 1-for-3. The Canucks were terrible with the man advantage and 0-for-4.

The 2nd period curse reared it's ugly head again tonight, where the Canucks were outshot 14-7 and outscored 2-0. There is your game right there. Where was the Canucks' wheels? In a scrap yard somewhere. Their character, after shutting down and beating the Capitals on Friday now remains in question. They failed to get a playoff spot once again. Their record against Central Division teams is 1-7. Fail. Fail. Fail! And just like that, the Blues are no longer in the Western Conference basement.

BOXSCORE AND HIGHLIGHTS

My 3 Stars:

1. David Backes. 2 goals and over 19:00 played

2. Ty Conklin

3. Paul Kariya. He was a force in the first half of the game.

Kevin Bieksa: Go away!

Kyle Wellwood: Hit the waiver wire!

Alain Vigneault Post Game.

I don't care about Alex Burrows' botched "kick in" call. The team wasn't in it.

I'm out.

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what i am completely sick of...

is the team playing to the standings. they show up on 3 cups of coffee and a red bull to play the good teams and coast for the bad ones. if you want to talk about character, that’s it right there. watching the canucks skate against the dicks and the blues vs how they skated against the caps it’s clear that they don’t get up for games and don’t take the body unless the team is worth the effort. where would the team be if they just played hard every night? well, after losses to stl (2), ana (2), car, nsh, and dal i think a lot further ahead.

so mad right now, if that was my locker room i’d be punching people out.

by bitterguy on Dec 21, 2009 12:37 AM PST reply actions  

Seems to me that they’re content to work just hard enough to eek into the playoffs. Sorry, but C students don’t win the Stanley Cup (and often miss the playoffs atogether).

by Bobby Canuck on Dec 21, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

This was a poor effort from a team that HAS YET TO BE IN THE TOP 8 in the West all season long! Shitting the bed once every 2 or 3 games is not going to land us in the post-season. The lack of physicality from this team in general has baffled me as well. That was the reason we were successful last season. Hitting hard, fighting, and trash talking!

Still questioning AV’s pairing of Bieksa and Rome. The first goal Rome was sitting in the box after a dumb penalty. The second goal Bieksa and Rome were out admiring David Backes instead of defending him. With Edler coming back it might be time for Bieksa to spend some time in the press box.

To all the SOB haters: this was the 10th straight game without a minor penalty for O’Brien. He was easily the best defenseman out there, scoring his first goal and he nearly had a couple more. He was also hitting everything that moved and finishing all his checks. Great to see.

by Twincest on Dec 21, 2009 1:16 AM PST reply actions  

SOB is pretty good but i don’t agree with AV putting him on in crucial offensive situations when we need a goal late in the game. He went 166 games without a goal for a reason. Also it seems like Bieksa has become a garbage player since he’s been paired with OB’wan.

Don’t get me wrong OB has been better of late and is young and has room to grow, and him not taking penalties goes a long way towards him becoming a respectable D-man. I like him and I think with experience he’s only going to get better hopefully.

by jozsef on Dec 21, 2009 3:47 AM PST up reply actions  

we seem to be really missing the vibe we had last year once mats sundin joined the team.

it seemed like the team was afraid to slack off in front of him or something. i was hoping schneider could replace some of that veteran accountability this year but instead he’s probably on the verge of retiring before the season ends…

hopefully this team figures out how to be sharp consistently really soon otherwise we’re going to have to try to make up ground during the road trip from hell.

by jozsef on Dec 21, 2009 3:43 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Yes,

I’ve always had similar thoughts about Sundin. With his presence, he was a motivating factor for the team, the younger players were inspired by him.

This may be the difference between last year’s and the current team. Right now they have no problem taking the day off at least once a week, as if there is nobody around to embarrass them.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Dec 21, 2009 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, but with Sundin they took all of January off. Not saying he didn’t help them, but how do we account for that? This to me is more of a management problem.
-the coach has to motivate the team or else they pay the price. If he can’t do that he’s gone.
-the GM has to make the necessary changes to add-subtract to the problem.

It wouldn’t hurt having Demitra back. At least he has better hands than most of that team. But he’s too far off from returning. I wish we could just write him off and get some immediate help.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

If only they could bury him in the minors IF he ever comes back.

Of course, that would keep people from signing here.

by Jevant on Dec 21, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Souptin

still getting overhyped.

It was mere coincidence that Lu started playing like a $7M goaltender again soon after Soup arrived, THAT was why they started winning, not Mr. Chunky’s presence.

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m curious about the effect Grabner is going to have on line 2 when he returns. It’s gotta be a good thing.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

IF

he gets a real opportunity in an offensive role now that Dank is back…

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Me too, Sammy hasn’t been terrible but that speed line sure was shaking things up before he got injured.

by jozsef on Dec 21, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I think the Demitra injury is hurting them a lot. Can’t use him, but can’t write him off. I keep telling myself that there are other good players that can take his place right now, but the truth is that his absence leaves a gaping hole in the defence, and the Canucks are stuck in this situation.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Dec 21, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Correction,

I meant “gaping hole in their offence”..

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Dec 21, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Attila, who are these players you have in mind?

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 21, 2009 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I meant: the Canucks are deep enough in the scoring department to make do without Demitra. In addition to the Sedins, Kessler, Raymond, Burrows, Samuelsson, etc. we also have others who can score (Salo, Ehrhoff, Bernier, even Wellwood….not).
But obviously, it’s not enough. As it was said here, we need another game-changer type of player. The 4 million that Demitra is making, should be close enough to get somebody, if the opportunity knocks.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Dec 21, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Put the spiced rum down!

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 21, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

More like V8 Berry Blend and Milk tonight..

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Not

Whitney

but I like the other two and both are dirt cheap cap wise for what they bring, not sure either team would part with them for cheap though.

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The Lightning need a goalie….hmmm

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

So, are we willing to give the rumor of Kovalchuk floating around the hockeybuzz type sites any credence?

Big Bucks better mean No Whammies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnTbO26u9bQ

The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:

We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"

by vancitydan on Dec 21, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

That Don Waddell may be up for offers on Kovy if he does not sign soon. The Canucks, Kings and Detroit, amongst others, were talked about.

The thing with him would be how do you fit signing him to a mucho dinero deal into your payroll. That the question becomes whether he becomes a high priced rental or you can sign him long term….maybe he wants out bad enough to be a little liquid in his demands…

The rumours put a lot of credence in the fact he wants out of ATL …and you can’t blame him. I think in a market like Vancouver, if he could produce at his usual levels, he would be a lot more of a rock star than he is in Georgia. More endorsements, etc…higher profile.

You’d have to lose some pretty good players, but he sure is a talented player….

The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:

We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"

by vancitydan on Dec 22, 2009 1:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Never believe anything Hockeybuzz generates. Ever.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 1:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t. I have read it at other sources, and mentioned in stories where they surmise what might happen to Kovy too….I said" hockeybuzz type sites" to denote that it should be taken with a grain of salt.

I happen to like the player myself….sure you would lose some players too….but if Gillis could mitigate the losses at forward, and maybe get a D’man to replace…maybe in another deal…or even bring up a young one from the farm…

Though, Atlanta has some good young talent on the blue line….it could be a home for a BIeksa…for instance? ( everyone’s fave whipping boy! )

The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:

We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"

by vancitydan on Dec 22, 2009 2:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I could see the Oilers being bigger players for Kovy than anyone else… they have been dying for a superstar to sign there.

by splnwezel on Dec 22, 2009 5:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry Dan. It was late and I misread what you said.

No chance Kovalchuk plays here. It makes no financial sense unless it’s a trade deadline deal. And then too much of our future gets lost in a deal.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Thought he

said he wanted to play for one team his whole career?

Great goalscorer but isn’t he asking for $10Mx10 years or something stupid?

by yoata on Dec 22, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

He will make the big bucks…and I agree it might be a sell job.

But consider a couple of things.

Why in the fuck would he WANT to go to the Oil? Everybody refuses to go there…its the cool thing to do right now.

He doesn’t seem the type that wants a city like Edmonton over a say…Montreal or Vancouver, someplace a little less…bleak.

As for Montreal, it does have some things that would make it a place to play for him.

It also has the most repressive taxes for the players to absorb in North America. Maybe he likes it there, or decides he would rather have Luongo, Kesler and the Sedins versus Cammy,Gomez and Gionta when he is back.

It might be far fetched…hence the rumour status, but if you can bring him down a bit from that 10 × 10 deal…who knows?

The way it is going, the game seems to be one of the only leagues to make positive financial gains during the recession, and, thanks to Canada, even grown a bit.

Maybe as things get better, big bucks aren’t as scary as in the past.

Peace

The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:

We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"

by vancitydan on Dec 22, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

5 years, 42.5 mil…

The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:

We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"

by vancitydan on Dec 22, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Oil

I still bet the Oilers make a pitch for him. Look at Jagr, Hossa, etc.
I’m not saying they’ll be successful, however…

by splnwezel on Dec 22, 2009 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

if you look back, sundin joined the team on jan 7, and they went 1-4 without luongo back yet from his superinjury. once luongo was back (jan 15) they had 3 overtime losses and 1 regulation loss promptly followed by an 8 game win streak.

having that RPM line combined with a healthy luongo seemed to spark this team into domination, and like attilas said the young players seemed to really be inspired by mats’ presence in the locker room, if not by his play on the ice.

that’s just one of the ways it seems to be to me anyways…

by jozsef on Dec 21, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Right

you just proved my point, Soup meant nothing until Lu got his A game going, then suddenly Soupy gets the credit, it’s bunk, he offered little and he provided even less, and when you factor in what he was paid, he might’ve been one of the poorest acquisitions by anybody in a long time.

Some were saying he make Kesler better, again, bunk, Kesler was rockin with Burr the year before and he’s rockin still, Kesler gets the credit for Kesler not some over the hill never was who may be the most overrated player of all time.

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Gamebreaker

This team needs another pure scorer/gamebreaking type. Almost every other team in contention has one (or two) and we don’t really have one. I love the Sedins, I was thrilled when they were resigned and I am not ripping into them. I actually am a big fan of pretty much everyone on this team.

But this team needs another go-to, gamebreaking scorer. I don’t know where you find one, but we need one.

by Jevant on Dec 21, 2009 5:44 AM PST reply actions  

This is what the Demitra acquisition was supposed to do, but I think that the Pavol experiment turned out to be a flop. I wish he was back right now, but I wouldn’t exactly call him a game-breaker, after watching him for a year. The money that we are paying him would be enough to buy such a game-breaker, but since we are stuck with him, there is no cap space.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Dec 21, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Gamebreaker

great word!

They’ve need that for quite a while now.

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

here's an idea

how about Cory Schneider in a deal for Jeff Carter? More pieces would be involved, but it’d help Philly’s goaltending problem, and get Schneider to the eastern conference where the Canucks wouldn’t have to see him more than once a year. I’m not sure that Carter is a game changer though.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Good luck

with that, need to shed salary too, not to mention if he’s available it’ll take moree than that.

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 5:28 PM PST up reply actions  

the offer on the table is Halak. If they can throw in Schneider + a pick, they can better it.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Spector

see here

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 22, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree with this too. The Sedins are soft and have a tendency to disappear when the going gets rough. But i’d much rather have a gamebreaker RFA come up through the system than pay $8m for a Hossa or a Gaborik.

by jozsef on Dec 21, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

Did you watch the playoffs last year? I’d say between that and this season they have officially shattered that myth.

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. The Twins are no longer soft. They’ve gotten better and better.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Who would you rather have 2 Sedins or two Zetterbergs?

by jozsef on Dec 22, 2009 2:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I like the Sedins. I think they are all-stars. If they didn’t prove that last year in the playoffs then Henrik proved it this year when Daniel got injured.

by jozsef on Dec 22, 2009 3:03 AM PST up reply actions  

2 Sedins or two Zetterbergs?

To the Sedins’ credit, they are making that question more and more difficult.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d rather have Ohlund to counter the Zetterberg.

by marcness52 on Dec 22, 2009 8:22 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, a damaged one. ;0)

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 22, 2009 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Dats

is the best RW forward though, absolutely dominant at both ends, does it all.

by yoata on Dec 22, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

He does appear to have some skills.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 22, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Skills

drive, selflessness, talent, character, grit…

by yoata on Dec 22, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

but Henrik will outscore him this year, and probably every subsequent season

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 22, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

pfft

this year maybe, the rest is wishful thinking

by yoata on Dec 22, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

My prediction

is that Datsyuk wants to win now, and thus forces a trade. Or else signs on with the KHL. ;)

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 22, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Might

want to check that crystal ball for cracks.

by yoata on Dec 22, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

One thing I saw last night while watching is that the Canucks don’t seem to have anyone who will reliably crash the net and manage to stay there, a Tomas Holmstrom-type. The goalie would make the first save and then the rebound would get scooped up by their D. Too much perimeter shooting and not enough making the G’s life hell isn’t a good recipe for scoring lots of goals.

Maybe it does come back to effort, but I’d say more that it comes back to being willing to pay the price and do what it takes to win. The talent is there, no question – Friday showed that – but they’ve got to go out there and do what it takes to win, every night regardless of the opponent.

Unleash the Alex!

by gotsparkly on Dec 21, 2009 6:07 AM PST reply actions  

I can’t stand Kevin Bieksa and his lackadaisical ways. He doesn’t seem to put the effort into his play that you’d expect a player with his so-called “fire” to have. He looks overconfident sometimes, and I find his body language on the ice to be rather blasé.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, good call, Karina. Bieksa, and it’s mean to say this, reminds me of Jovanovski. They are low IQ players. They don’t have the ability to make the right decisions at a consistent level.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d be all for dealing Bieksa, but only after/during his next hot streak. I am quite content with a top 7 of Mitchell, Ehrhoff, Edler, Salo, O’Brien, Rome and Schneider, if that’s what it took to open up the space for another scorer.

by Jevant on Dec 21, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I haven’t been paying attention, I guess. Has Rome been that much better this second time around?

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 21, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he was better last time around…. am I the only one who thinks that?

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve only been listening, not watching, the last few games. Judging by people’s comments, it seems you’re in the minority, Sean. Me, I don’t know. Frustration makes my head hurt.

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 21, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Rome is better than Bieksa, reliability-wise.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

My thought is that for 10-12 minutes a night, I’d be okay with Rome instead of Bieksa, if it means we can create space for a scorer.

Heck – take out Demitra’s 4 million and Bieksa’s 3.5…you have enough for just about anyone not named Ovie, Crosby or Malkin.

by Jevant on Dec 21, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Rome makes sense, you don’t really need Bieksa’s “offense” anymore with Ehrhoff, Edler, Schneider, Salo in.
Can anyone explain to me why he’s still on the PP?

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

We may want to cross Schneider off that list soon. I gotta feeling he’s retiring early.
Bieksa had 11 goals and 43 points last year. Not bad at all. Not finding his touch this year yet. Same can be said about Edler.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Edler still has room for improvement, though. Can you say the same about Bieksa?
Schneider does look retirement ready to me.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that now that I bashed Bieksa’s IQ, I don’t think he’ll get much better. I have absolute faith in Edler, yes.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you mean his hockey IQ and not his regular IQ. The guy went to Bowling Green. I don’t think anyone of us could get into that school.

by Section 312 on Dec 21, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

speak for yourself

some of us have an academic bent about us, even if we tone it down on the interwebs.

by bitterguy on Dec 22, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I went to SFU but I don’t think I could have gotten into Bowling Green it’s a prety good school.

by Section 312 on Dec 22, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

That Stripes avatar does a good job of disguising it. ;)

Please allow me to adjust my pants, so that I may dance the good time dance, and lead the onlookers and innocent bystanders into a trance.

by Smoboy41 on Dec 22, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

He was atrocious on the second or third goal, when the Blues player skated around him and scored. Bieksa didn’t even make an effort to shove him aside, just watched the guy score. I was just shaking my head in disgust.

Los Angeles, CA

by AttilaS on Dec 21, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

yes

that was absolutely brutal, and not at all the type of thing Bieksa should be doing. He’s supposed to be a mean, physical defenseman with an offensive upside. I’ve seen little to none of that this season.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

If I’m not mistaken there was a dust up on center ice sometime prior to the St. Louis game between AV and Bieksa. Could be an attitude issue, which may have been going on for a while. Don’t really know, just guessing.

by Bobby Canuck on Dec 21, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Just a random thought… I don’t like the Canucks’ more offensive system that Gillis wanted. It reminds me a lot of Marc Crawford’s style. How many times do our D-men get caught up ice every game? It’s happening way to often. It’s hard to watch because it’s stressful as hell.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

I really think Vigneault just doesn’t know how to coach that way. The players seem confused to me.

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You may be right. I have the same thought.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

precisely, and proof is...

…the number of times the D will try to fire a puck out of the zone by banking it off the boards through a crowd, instead of corralling it and looking to the opposite side for a breakout. I don’t mean a cross crease pass, I mean D to D behind the net, or skating. You can’t play an offensive puck-possession game without a good breakout, and they simply don’t have one. Willie Mitchell drives me insane on this one, Bieksa too.

by beemser on Dec 21, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Could be Bieksa’s troubles began when he became a forward for a few games. His game seemed to have been disrupted as a result. He’s become one of the worst offenders in getting caught up ice.

by Bobby Canuck on Dec 21, 2009 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

LA- Anaheim

I know this post is about a week late, and completely off-topic, but are there any Canucks fans on here that have been to games in LA and/or Anaheim?

Buying tickets to the two games in April with my dad (also taking in an Anaheim/LA game as well – 3 games in as many nights) for my dad’s Christmas present… just looking for advice on places to stay/eat and maybe if we can get deals on tickets or something…

by splnwezel on Dec 21, 2009 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

Ex-Pat here

Been living in LA/OC for the past 10 years and catch almost every Canucks game when they come to town.

Tickets are not very hard to come by and oh so much cheaper than in Vancouver.
You can even expect to pay 5 to 20% below face value off of scalpers on game day or off of ebay the week of the game. In fact, I often have not even paid due to merely being the “Canadian guy” – i.e. the guy that is always happy and excited to be given free tix, by season ticket holders who cant give them away to their friends or co-workers. There is such a minority of hockey fans down here.

In LA, they have done allot in the last couple years to build up around the Staples Center. In years past, I would have told you to go stay in Santa Monica or something and commute to the Kings game, but now their are so many great restaurants, bars and things to do in downtown LA that is it worth staying the Staple Center ajacent hotels.

In Anaheim – it is very suburban and near Disneyland, so not much of interest near the Honda Center (except the Angels Stadium). You can certainly stay there – lots of hotels around, but you may be just as good to enjoy the day and the surroundings in one of the beach cities 30 mins away. Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Laguna Beach or even the South LA beaches of Manhattan Beach or Hermosa Beach are on 30 to 45 mins from Honda Center. Go enjoy some suns, surf, beach bars and bikinis.
There is one good bar/restaurant across the street from Honda Center called JT Schmidts. Rememeber the LA Angels stadium is right next to Honda Center as well, so you could do that as well if you decided to stay in Anaheim (the season is on in April right?)

Anything else I can fill you in on?

If you had to pick only one – you likely enjoy the King experience more. Staple Center is much more vibrant and “happening” than the more tame “family focused” sub-urban Ducks games.

PS Always give yourself double the driving-time anywhere in LA/OC if you are traveling around rush hours. Notoriusly bad traffic.

by Mojo J on Dec 21, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

good to know

I have been to a Kings game but YEARS ago when they still played at the Forum…
What I’m probably looking at is a hotel close to the Staples Center since two of the games are there plus you avoid the Disneyland crowd. And they’ll all 6-630pm game times, but seeing as we’ll be on holidays we’ll likely get there a couple hours early and just enjoy the scenery.

The closest NHL team that I can go watch is the Edmonton Oilers (saw them last year lose to the Colorado Avalanche), and even that set me back $80 per ticket… likely can get all three tickets for the same price.

Hmmm… checked other sports teams playing in the LA area that same week… not much we’d be interested but of note there is a Raptors (NBA) game preceding the three NHL games…

Anyways, likely be just me and my dad going… two guys looking to cause trouble. Should be a lot of fun! I’ll post again closer to the date and see what more I can gleam from you. Thanks!

by splnwezel on Dec 21, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Remember sometime last year when there were some minor talk about Bieksa getting a little look for the Olympic team? Haha.

I don’t like a single thing about his game these days (way too many mistakes, can’t hit the net with a shot, doesn’t hit much any more, stupid penalties, etc.). Trade him.

by cyxj on Dec 21, 2009 1:31 PM PST reply actions  

how many

more years are there on his contract?

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll give you Jeff Finger for him…

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

dammit

"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky

by Karina on Dec 21, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea i had the same thought about the olympics buzz a few days ago. It is not even conceivable now. His game has really regressed from last year. Not sure what to make of Kevin does he keep going backwards or does anyone think he will still wake up pull up his socks and get his game back on track?

by Kelownakid on Dec 21, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions  

At this point it’s hard to be positive about him. He can’t get any worse, however.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad sign

is that he gets served notice by the coach and responds by playing even worse and with a doesn’t give a shite attitude.

by yoata on Dec 21, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, at least O’Brien comes out and plays better. Bieksa..not so much.

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 22, 2009 1:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have anything against OB’wan but Bieksa’s crap play really seemed to start when he was partnered with OB last year. I’m guessing they became friends off the ice and Bieksa is spending too much time having fun off the ice and has lost his edge.

All conjecture obviously but how else to explain a good D-man turning into mud so quickly?

by jozsef on Dec 21, 2009 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Well SOB hasn’t been great until recently but at least he’s only making 1.6 mil. The fact that their worst defenseman right now is the highest paid d man on the team is a bit worrying.

by marcness52 on Dec 21, 2009 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

i think goes back farther than the forward games Bieksa has not had a great season, Does anyone have his stats from the Chicago series? This may go back that far or further. Something is up with him his head – it is in another time zone. He did some weird stuff in the St Louis series tripping people at the end of the game for no apparent reason – it got good press at the time because we were on a high but really it was goofy crap.

by Kelownakid on Dec 21, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont get it.

Shane O’Brien scored a goal? IS THIS SOME SORT OF SICK JOKE?

by Chuckles Canuckles on Dec 21, 2009 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

It’s more sick that he scored and nobody else did!

by Sean Zandberg on Dec 21, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

It is more sick that he scored in the opponent’s net and not on his own ;-)

by duru2000 on Dec 21, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

and it’s sickening that it had to happen while i was working!!!!
seriously, i’ve waited a long time to see him score.

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by missy on Dec 21, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

If you watch the replay

Check out the whole play. Someone (I forget who) made a great pass to Samuelson in the high slot who then made an awesome spin-a-rama backhand pass to SOB who was behind the defenders in the slot. SOB’s goal celebration was pretty awesome too.

by SteveNux on Dec 22, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

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