To Hell With The Devils! Canucks-Devils Preview
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 11:10 AM PST
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2:38 PM ET Update: Shane O'Brien will play tonight instead of Mathieu Schneider. The Canucks need some more toughness against the Devils, and I'll speculate that Schneider's lousy game a few nights ago didn't help. OB has missed 7 games as a healthy scratch. Taking 10 minor penalties in 17 games didn't help. Always the smartass, OB told the Province today: "I already told the guys, to be ready to kill one off."
Ryan Johnson is a man's man. He will play tonight, bruised leg and all. And he won't change his style of play either. Balls, you rule, man!
As Missy had mentioned earlier, Rick Rypien should be good to go tonight. That means Darcy Hordichuk will sit this one out.
2:10 PM ET Update: When asked if he'll be watching the Olympic hopeful netminders tonight, Steve Yzerman said:
"I'm going to TiVo it and watch it later," Yzerman told ESPN.com on Tuesday. "I'm going to be at another game [Tampa at Boston], but when I saw this game [Canucks-Devils] on the schedule, I wanted to make sure I watched it."
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Devils (17-6-1, 4th in the East) vs Canucks (14-12-0, 11th in West)
GAME TIME: 4:00 PST
TV: TSN
THE WICKED: In Lou We Trust
When the Devils beat the Canucks 5-3 at GM Place in their only meeting last year, Brodeur and Luongo were not even playing between the pipes. It was Scott Clemmenson vs Jason Labarbera. Barbie had a rough start, facing 6 shots in the 3 minutes he played and allowing 2 goals. Curtis Sanford replaced him. In 2007-08 the 2 teams played each other once, with the Canucks winning 5-0 at GM Place. That was a Luongo-Brodeur showdown that we can appreciate.
Since the 1997-98 season, New Jersey and Vancouver have only butted heads 13 times. The Canucks have a 8-5 record against them, and outscoring them 35-34 in the process. But that's all history.
The media is going to write a "Brodeur vs Luongo: who's starting for Team Canada?" angle for this game. However, neither goalie is buying into the hype. So far, Brodeur has Lou by the bag.
Brodeur was named the NHL's 2nd Star of the Week after winning 3 straight games and posting stellar 0.97 GAA and .963 save percentage.
The Devils hold a 7-4 record at home this year, but an even more impressive 10-2-1 record on the road. The road is where the Canucks are anything but warriors so far this year, posting a dismal 4-8-0 record. Vancouver needs to be better than a .500 team on this trip, and it won't be easy. The night after the Devils game, the Canucks play the Flyers.
Vancouver is now 9 points behind the (puke) Flames, who are clinging to the top spot in the Northwest right now. That being said, the Nucks are still only 3 points out of a playoff spot.
Comparative Stats:
Goals Per Game: Canucks 9th overall, Devils 18th
Goals Against Per Game: Devils #1 in the NHL, Canucks 10th
Powerplay : Canucks 3rd, Devils 10th
PK: Devils 9th, Canucks 23rd (yowza)
5 on 5: Canucks 10th, Devils 11th
Shots Per Game: Canucks 11th, Devils 14th
Shots Against Per Game: Devils 6th, Canucks 10th
Faceoff %: Canucks 6th, Devils 25th. Faceoffs hardly mean shit. The Devils have been missing centers Rob Niedermayer and Jay Pandolfo for extended amounts of time. Pandolfo may return against the Canucks.
Devils to watch out for:
Zach Parise: 15 goals and 30 points in 24 games
Travis Zajac: 7 goals and 22 points in 24 games
Jamie Langenbrunner: 5 goals and 22 points in 24 games.
One thing about the Devils: their defence is very effective defensively, but not offensively. Their best scorer from the back is Andy Greene, with 3 goals and 12 points in 21 games. It drops off considerably after that.
Remember when we used to be called the Devils of the West? Well don't let that fool you. This could be a high-scoring game.
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9th in GF, 10th in GA, 3rd on PP…and 3 points out of the playoffs? That sucks. But with the number of teams ahead posting negative goal differentials, I still think the Canucks will be fine. We’re winning big, and losing close ones. That’s generally a sign of good things to come (once the bounces start going their way).
I think it’s going to be a tight one tonight. 3-2 Canucks, Wellwood with the winner.
I predict: Mike has too many beers and bonds with Devils fans over hating the Rangers.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
Damn, you going tonight Yankee? I was contemplating heading down for this one, but it would have only been worth it if I could’ve seen a couple games. I’ll wait ’til next year and try to see them play both the Rangers and Islanders.
If the Rock is anything like the Meadowlands you should have your own section in the upper bowl. Could make bonding with Devils fans tough, unless you’ve got a good shouting voice.
by nucksandpucks on Dec 2, 2009 7:28 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve never had a problem with games in MSG. Fans are douchebags but that’s to be expected. I like that MSG is small so even the nose bleeds are good seats.
My seats tonight are decent though. Should get a good view the carnage. I’ll try and email Sean any sloppy pictures I take to share in the game thread.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Dec 2, 2009 9:05 AM PST up reply actions
Prediction
Gotta jump on this chance for internet glory from a bunch of hockey nuts I’ve never met (but love anyway). So I’ll say 4-2 Canucks, Danny gets the game winner.
Alright everyone. Please collectively pray that I don’t get slapped with any major work assignments in the next 4.5 hours, so that I can get myself out to the game on time. Pray hard.
by Beantown Canuck on Dec 2, 2009 10:18 AM PST reply actions
Is that title a reference to the old Stryper song? Probably not, but the metal-themed posts are always good. Maybe they’ll win tonight, and you’ll be tempted to go with Christian-metal-themed game-day posts for the rest of the season. Or not.
3-1 Canucks, Edler with the winner.
I need to brush up on my Christian metal if that’s the case.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Dec 2, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
Aha! Somebody caught the Stryper reference! Nice work!
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
I went to church my whole life until the last few years, so I went through that christian metal phase. Stryper sucked. There were some great christian metal bands though: Believer was insanely cool, Deliverance were Metallica clones, but still good. Then there was the christian industrial metal bands, like Brainchild and Mortal. Awesome stuff. Still listen to those bands.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
4-3 Canucks, Glass with the winner.
i have no idea how much of the game i will get to watch. i’m in class until 4:20, and have to talk to my teacher afterwards then catch a 20-minute bus home. i hope to be home in time for the 2nd…..
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
So, you suggested a good vs evil Photochop. What do you think?
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
not quite what i was expecting, but still pretty good.
i was expecting something more with god and the devil, with luie’s face put onto god and marty’s face on the devil
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
but then i miss all the fun :(
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Hmm..
Well if we win…I have a second one ready ;)
Until then, you’ll have to put up with a God-Adam scenario that I made in the past:
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
I’m driving the bus to hell, anyone want a ride? haha
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
looking forward to seeing SOB’s babyface tonight?
by Beantown Canuck on Dec 2, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’ll take OB over Schneider at this point.
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
As long as SOB’s predictable penalty is the result of him putting someone through the boards (ie. roughing), I’d be okay with that as I’m sure he has a lot of pent up anger.
Yay, another game that caters to us easterners but leaves me with tight timing for hitting the gym.
3-2 Devils in the SO.
Nucks take it 3-0 with Luongod outplaying the newly anointed AMERICAN citizen Brodeur. In my books that’s a no go!!! By the way, love that the Devils blog is called in Lou we trust, apparently they’re Luongo fans too. :P (No I’m not an idiot I know they are talking about Lou Lamoriello or however you spell it.)
Hmm, not sure I can live up to my 2 point prediction last game
I’m gonna go Canucks 3-2, GWG to Daniel Sedin
Let’s hope Brodeur doesn’t break his shut out record tonight, right :)
Didn’t you just copy my prediction last time? ;)
3-2 is a very good prediction considering the two teams.
It sure is. Only reason I usually go 4-2 is the chance of an empty netter.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
But history between the 2 shows otherwise
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Haha, don’t think so much of yourself. I just think of the team most likely to win and choose a random score :p Sorry to disappoint. But if you get this one right too I might start copying
it is a very good prediction.
with the statistical prediction algorithm i’m testing out (no success yet, but need a few more games to continue trying), i got a score of 2.8-2.6 for the canucks. this, of course, is a little hard to round in such a way that i end up with an actual score (here, i get a score of 3-3). this is why i chose the 4-3: go into overtime and canucks keep their overtime record intact.
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
of course, what you could’ve also done in this situation for the same result is round up for the canucks and down for the devils
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
“statistical prediction algorithm”??
My head just exploded. There was a reason I took Communications in Uni.
hahahahaha
i’m in math, so……
(i came up with the algorithm last game, 2nd time trying it out)
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
I was about to ask for you to post it but no, I’m far too scared of seeing the maths
I do stats at uni, the fun bit of maths :p You can keep your calculus and algebra :)
stats? so boring!! i’m just doing the introductory stuff right now though. if i like it by the end of april, i only need 4 more courses for a minor
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
If it really works, we gonna be watching a movie of the week about you, about how you went to Vegas and took ’em for all they were worth? Remember to thank us little people!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
well, i haven’t had success yet, last game i predicted 4-3 canucks and it ended up 4-2 sharks.
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Lotta variance, tho. You could run a regression test against, say, last year’s NHL data and use that to tune it.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
my sample size is currently 1 game though, so i need a couple more to see if i can find a pattern…..
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
I don’t think you can use one of those in a hockey prediction game. Too many variables. Like my friend once said: the farther the pendulum swings, the greater the variance in the variables…. (or something like that)
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
don’t get me wrong though, I don’t want to ruin your fun. It’s just that my Captain Morgan’s theory is working better..hahaha! And I didn’t go to uni for that ;)
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Too many variables? Well, too many for her to consistently predict the exact score, sure, but she doesn’t have to run faster than the bear, just faster than us.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
haha! Well, get on the score predictor wizard list, missy! Make me a believer ;0
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 2, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Early in the season, Sean, and she’s still tuning the thing. This’ll be fun to watch.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
still tuning? more like just created!! i’m still a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way from just “tuning”
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
No, missy, if anyone asks, you’re “tuning” it.
/marketing b.s.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
of course, anyone can just go down to last game’s preview and read all my comments about coming up with one…..
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Oh sure, in its “incubation” period! But now it’s progressed!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
okay, i’ll give you a simple recap.
for last game, i came up with a statistical way to predict the scores for the games. my goal is to possibly use this method to dominate the score-wizardry. casual thinks i’ll become famous for it, while the others don’t think it will work because there are too many factors involved.
do you comprehend?
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Yeah I am actually pretty smart and I used to rock out in math but I took stats in Uni and hated it. I really don’t think there is any way you can reliably predict what will happen. Now, you might be able to come up with a system that lets you know which scores occur most often and maybe even find some sort of pattern in the scores. But I don’t see a way to predict the score of a game. I mean can you factor in officiating, fatigue, etc etc etc.
Once again, she doesn’t have to run faster than the bear…
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
So she is trying to predict the scores while running from a bear? I don’t get it. Shouldn’t she just play dead?
LOL!!!
no, he means that i don’t have to beat the hierarchy of NHL statistics, i only have to beat you guys
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Yeah. I still think you will have a hard time getting to a point where you can reliably predict the outcome of a game. And then you are just guessing like the rest of us.
yep, i do realize that. out of most likelihood, my method will be a complete failure, and i’ll return to normal guessing by new year’s.
"If you ever lose your way in the dark, a good thing to find in your pocket would be Mathieu Schneider's teeth." Kurtenbloggers
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler." random commentor at yahoo
GO CANUCKS GO!
Jesus Christ...
Shane O’Brien is playing tonight, FML. Get ready to drown in a sea of needless and detrimental penalties brought on by that talentless blockhead.
by Chuckles Canuckles on Dec 2, 2009 4:00 PM PST reply actions
The GDT always goes up 1 hour before game time
by Sean Zandberg on Dec 3, 2009 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
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