O'Brien May Face Disciplinary Hearing For Avery Incident (UPDATED)

by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 10:36 AM PST in Video Comment 26 comments

TSN is reporting that Shane O'Brien may be in a little bit of hot water for poking at Sean Avery with his stick from the bench. Comically, Avery grabbed the stick out of O'Brien's hands and kept himself rather composed. UPDATE: O'Brien has been suspended for 1 game.

Rangers' Dane Byers ~~may face~~ gets a 1 game suspension plus a $10,000 fine (edit: coach John Tortorella gets the fine) for instigating a fight with Tanner Glass with less than 5:00 left in the 3rd period (18:50 mark). That's comical too because he'd more or less have triple punishment for his crime: suspension, fine and his ass beat. Just saying.

Here is the video of the entire scuffle/aftermath (plug your ears, kids. Ferraro's mic catches some great profanity):

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To my good friend, Shane

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Nov 4, 2009 11:49 AM PST reply actions 1 recs

SOB is such a moron. I hope he gets suspended for a few games, he’s too much of a liability on AND off the ice.

by cyxj on Nov 4, 2009 12:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. He has played better at times this season. He does have some underrated talent.

That .02 cent head gets him EVERY time.

I do think he has some value to other teams that see what he does at times in Vancouver. So, they have built up a guy that was a borderline player into a bonafide (almost!) NHLer.

If Rome can do what he does with less penalties though…sorry to sound harsh SOB…but fuck em…

vancitydan

by vancitydan on Nov 4, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

It would be nice to have Lukowich on the roster right now instead of SOB.

by Jevant on Nov 4, 2009 12:24 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Luko would be awesome! Hey, OB might be a bit of a bonehead, but he sticks up for his bro’s. You have to admire that quality in him.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 12:26 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I like that he’s a big body and will come to the aid of the team, but he spent the majority of last season putting the team into shorthanded situations. Then Gillis resigns him but wants to see some change and 15 games in and he’s pointless, second on the team in PIMs and now could be suspended for a completely boneheaded move.

It’s time to move him. Or, if no one wants him, send him to Manitoba. Let him go learn a lesson the hard way.

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by Yankee Canuck on Nov 4, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Does he have to clear waivers?

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Nov 4, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Yes he does and Luko does in the other direction as well that is makes trying to switch them such a high risk procedures now.

I think they just made the wrong call at the end of training camp. I am sure they really agonized over which one of these two they should send then. I was really hoping they would go the other way and keep Lukowich at the time.

Am with Sean though you do have admire that SOB answers the bell for his team every time. If anything he is too anxious to show that he is there for them and that gets him into trouble. I have hard coming down on anyone for trying too hard.

by Kelownakid on Nov 4, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He’s 26 so yeah he’d have to clear waivers (damn you Smoboy, killed my ingenious plans!). However NHLSCAP.com does say if a player is assigned on a conditioning assignment he doesn’t have to clear waivers so maybe AV just needs to explain the conditioning is mental. Someone call the lawyers, find the wiggle room.

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by Yankee Canuck on Nov 4, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Like…“Sean Avery once again proved how vile he is by saying some really mean things to Shane Obrien”…“the video we are about to show what happened when Mr. Obrien reacted in the only way he could to this egregious language”

Judge – “just tell me, what did Mr. Avery in fact say”

Lawyer-"my apologies your Honor, but this breaks with the precedent of “what goes on on the ice stays on the ice”. I am sure your Honor knows the precedent"

Judge-" I find for plaintiff, waiver assignment approved"

The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:

We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck: ' a (Canadian).

by vancitydan on Nov 4, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

second on the team in PIMs

well that’s a tough call, because he was handed out 14 minutes total last night. Does he lead the team in minor penalties, that’s the real question.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

OK, fair enough. And I completely agree on the second point.

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by Yankee Canuck on Nov 4, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

For fuck's sake O'Brien

The idiocy of the aforementioned supposed “hockey player” is astounding. Ive watched him take ridiculous penalties and get burned by forwards too many times last year. It is beyond me why he is still on the roster. Bring up Lukowich and waive O’Brien, this shit is unacceptable. Even this season he has been putting the Canucks into short-handed situations (the most recent one the double-minor for highsticking last game) where actual hard-working players like Kesler and Burrows have had to sacrifice their bodies to prevent shots from getting through. This is ludicrous and he has become an obvious liability. Him poking Avery with the stick is among the most cowardly actions Ive seen on a hockey rink. A player of that caliber doesn’t belong in the AHL, let alone the NHL. Im surprised Avery didn’t just throw his stick back at O’Brien after yanking it out of O’Brien’s feeble hands. Its what I would have done. He’s not even a passable enforcer. Bieksa has been the one sticking up for his teammates of late and I commend him for that. He is completely unable to make outlet passes and his slapshot is terrible. He makes more giveaways than anyone else on the team and is among the top 3 in penalty minutes. He needs to go.

by Chuck Canuck on Nov 4, 2009 2:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

Im surprised Avery didn’t just throw his stick back at O’Brien after yanking it out of O’Brien’s feeble hands. Its what I would have done.

Hey, now you’re contradicting yourself.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

How so?

by Chuck Canuck on Nov 4, 2009 6:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

You talk about OB poking Avery with his stick being so cowardly and then you you say that you are surprised that Avery didn’t throw the stick back at OB because that’s what YOU would have done.

That was not a cowardly act. Give me a break. Avery is the coward because I tell you right now, Avery would not drop the gloves with Shane OB if the chance was there.

I’m not going to hack on OB right now. Yeah, he screwed up, but he sure as hell has not been the worst defenceman in my opinion.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Solution: what if we trade Luko to a team that wants SOB for like a 7th round draft pick or something, then trade SOB for Luko. Anyone?

by Beantown Canuck on Nov 4, 2009 2:31 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

I believe that’s possible.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm wouldn’t another GM just pretend to agree to this fairytale then keep Luko? I mean wouldn’t you if you were a GM? I don’t think you could put if in writing because you are obviously working a fake trade to circumvent the waver rules.

Somehow i doubt that it would work otherwise I think we would seen similar deals done in the past.

by Kelownakid on Nov 4, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m trying to go down memory lane to see if that has happened before, but nothing comes to me.

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

In that case...

…you end up with a 7th rounder for Luko. Considering there is no way he’s making it through waivers unclaimed, that’s probably not a terrible result.

by Jevant on Nov 5, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Shenanigans!!

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Nov 4, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Right!! Smoboy – Named after the famous Shenanigan brothers trade of 1937. In that famous trade the Shenanigans were traded for a blind mule. However it turned out that mule could not pass a physical due an incurable case or constipation (medicine as come long way since 37) so the league had to step in and put a stop to the whole thing.

Henceforth these type of trades are referred to as Shenanigans!! Strictly forbidden – although SOB for a blind mule- hell throw a couple bails of hay and we have a deal..

by Kelownakid on Nov 4, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

I saw this comment over at kuklas and couldn’t agree more…

Avery makes a comment about a girl – suspended indefinitely.

SOB reaches over the bench to get at a guy – one game.

The NHL has such sound decision makers.

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by Yankee Canuck on Nov 4, 2009 7:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs

Don't forget to add that

the NHL makes out Sean Avery to be the devil but as soon as he gets back into the NHL they poster him up. For example: “See Sean Avery Battle the Devils one day after his suspension is lifted.”

So I’ll agree

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by Joe Fortunato on Nov 4, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

“I got sucked in a little bit,” said O’Brien, who will be ineligible to play here Thursday night against the Minnesota Wild. "Throughout the game, there were a few incidents that happened on the ice and with the line brawl. And Avery was saying stuff to [Darcy] Hordichuk on the bench before it happened and I just felt that was over the line. I just let my emotions take over.
“It was a heated point of the game and it was getting a little physical and I like to stick up for my teammates and that you can’t say things or do things without someone getting in your way.”

-The Province

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by Sean Zandberg on Nov 4, 2009 9:18 PM PST reply actions 0 recs