Back To The Back To The Beat Y'all: Canucks-Oilers Preview
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:55 AM PST
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Oilers (10-12-4) vs Canucks (13-11-0)
Game Time: 7:00 PST
TV: CBC Hockey Night in Canada
The Enemy: The Copper and Blue. Also known as The Black and Blue. Lowetide.
"There is no way we should have lost this hockey game," Oilers coach Pat Quinn said. "We did some really good things but what has been our problem here from day one is we don't cover well against our net. We have a group that stares at the puck and doesn't recognize danger."
That is what Oilers coach Pat Quinn said after his teams' 5-4 shootout loss to the Sharks last night. Yeah, that's right, last night. The Canucks are once again playing a team who played a game the previous night. This is like winning some form of lottery isn't it?
The Oilers received some treacherous news on Friday when they learned that they have lost Ales Hemsky for the remainder of the season due to shoulder surgery. He had 7 goals and 22 points in 22 games at this point. Maybe Pavol Demitra will have a new swimming partner? The Oilers are in trouble. They had a 7-6-1 record in October, but now a 3-6-3 record in November. They are quickly heading for the Western Conference basement.
They now begin a 6-game road trip, starting in Vancouver, where the Canucks are 9-3-0 this season. Edmonton is 2-7-2 away from Rexall Place. Cause for concern for Oilers fans no doubt.
Let's look at some of the 2 teams' team stats.
PowerPlay: Oilers 14th in the NHL, Canucks 8th.
Penalty Killing: Oilers 15th, Canucks 22nd.
Goals Per Game: Oilers 14th, Canucks 15th. Actually, the teams are tied.
Goals Against Per Game: Oilers 25th, Canucks 8th best.
Shots Per Game: Oilers 28th, Canucks 11th.
Shots Against Per Game: Oilers 25th, Canucks 7th best.
The Canucks hardly have much bragging rights over Edmonton this year so far. They have played each other twice this season with both teams winning. The Oilers won 2-1on October 19, and the Canucks won 2-0 on October 25. The Canucks sit in 10th spot in the West, 3 points behind 8th place Phoenix. They have to continue their winning ways.
You have to like the Canucks' chances tonight. The Kings looked a bit sluggish last game after playing 2 nights in a row. The same could happen to Edmonton as the game wears on. If Roberto Luongo continues the stellar play that we saw against L.A. the Coilers are in trouble. After this game, the Oilers will get a 5-day rest between games. Sound familiar? I would then assume that the starting goalies would be as follows, as Nikolai Khabibulin remains sidelined with back ailments:
Roberto Luongo
#1 / Goalie / Vancouver Canucks
Jeff Deslauriers
#38 / Goalie / Edmonton Oilers
Any other slumping Canucks want to get it going? Let's see if Kyle Wellwood really did get that monkey off his back, or if another one will take it's place.
Word is that Mathieu Schneider will be the guest on After Hours after the game. Send him some questions! Like:
-How do you get your teeth to be THAT white?
-How many times per day do you shave?
-Does any Canuck call you dad?
Don't forget the game score predictions. You guys have some catching up to do! Yours truly guessed the right score, winning team and winning goal scorer last game. I gotta than the Captain for that one.
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Well, I will ponder the score for later on, but there is one thing, not just because I read it referred to here, but have also read it in other, more often than not Eastern media, that the Canucks have some unfair advantage by virtue of geography and the way they schedule the trips through Vancouver.
Fuck that.
Like its our fault Vancouver is where it is. Its the counterbalance to the longer travel times the Canucks have to endure on the road.
Now that I think about it, I think that is what Gillis was saying before the season started when he referred to the team being relatively happy with the sked. They all know we have challenges maybe only a handful of other Western teams can understand. But if you look at most of their trips, there are no stupid trips from New York to Minny and back to the East Coast.
More like big loops. Except for that ultra long 14 gamer broken up by the Olympics…aint much you can do about that one. Though from looking at the calendar, it does seem well thought out in terms of short flights.
So Edmonton has to come in tired? Boo fucking hoo. Thats life in The Show. Buy the ticket and take the ride.
The Canucks will be the “tired” team enough times this year anyhow.
I hope the Sharks spend their off day getting wasted at the Roxy or whatever other club on Granville catches their eye.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 2:19 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Great
but is it worth all these momentum killing long breaks and 14 back to backs?
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are done. B2B are part of it…shit happens.
We have had this conversation before…I’ll just agree to disagree here…it is what it is….and they are not the team we all think they are if a few scheduling anomalies are enough to derail the entire season.
Skeds have always been a concern for the Canucks…always.
But we live in one of the Top 5 cities in the world…so there is that!
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not done
there are several more, and LOTS more b2b, Gillis obviously accepted this f/u sched to get what he valued more, which was basically fit it into his pet theory.
Regardless of whether they are done or not, it’s a moronic schedule.
How is it that you can give credit to Gillisgan for the minor benefits of the sched, but when it comes to the significant drawbacks “it’ is what it is, scheds are always a concern”?
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t listen yoata. I don’t want to get into this with you…its useless to have a convo with you on anything Gillis related…
So, please…I am having a nice Sat. afternoon so far….
Scheduling has always been a problem. We are the farthest West and North of all the teams.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well, actually, edmonton is furthur north than vancouver, but i’m not going to bug you about that because i know what you mean.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit to Edmonton is 2213 KM’s. Detroit to Vancouver is 2736 km’s. Dallas to Edmonton is 2289 km’s and Dallas to Vancouver is 2462 km’s. I used this calculator.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thx missy ..exactly…you know what I meant.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I figured you meant, “on average, Vancouver is the furthest northwest; i.e. the longest journey for other teams to make, and therefore the longest journeys for the Canucks to make to visit other teams.”
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you guys really think that the travel is that big of a deal? I mean they fly right? So that extra 200kms that the Nucks have to fly to Dallas is a whopping 15 minutes. Big deal. In junior kids have to go 18 hours on the bus sometimes and then play the next day. Pro sports teams in the NHL, NBA etc etc also have very nice luxury planes plus team doctors to prescribe things to help guys sleep. I really don’t see the travel as that big of a deal. Would it be nice to have 10 teams within an hours flight of Vancouver like a New Jersey has? Sure. Is it that big of a deal that we don’t? Not really.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's
a big deal compared to the Eastern Conference’s travel, but the range in the West isn’t a whole lot different for anyone, believe Detroit is the one that has to deal with the most different time zones due to being an Eastern team that plays in the West. iinm.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think like they are lying down on a plane and sleeping so it can’t take that much out of them. We bused 3 hours yesterday, the team I covered lost, then we bused 3 hours back got in a 2am and they play tonight. Lots of them work today as well. Travel is a fact of life in all levels of hockey and I guess I just don’t see the big deal. I flew to Vancouver recently, got off the plane and was hammered and up until 3 am. The travel didn’t affect me at what I do best. :)
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha! Hey Section, comparatively, the NHL’s travel is a joke, yes!
Millionaires and their fucking luxuries, hey? But yeah, there is a big diff between the East and West and that has to play some role in “fatigue”, although I’m not sure how much.
I like the way you put it, though. Well said.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are we the same group that blamed Luongo’s groin injury last year on his playing an afternoon game?
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
100% agree that at times travelling a lot plays into a tired team at the end of a road trip. Although how much it plays into it compared to the fatigue of not having been home in a while, probably a back to back with travel in between somewhere on the road trip etc etc will probably never be known. The thing is, why compare it to the East? We play in the West. We have to beat western teams to make the playoffs and if iirc we domiante the Eastern teams. So the travel to Florida, Atlanta, TO and Montreal doesn’t seem to be affecting us that much.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They also don't have to deal
with time zone differences, being away from their wife and kids etc, besides kids are a lot tougher, just look at the abuse you put your body through when you were 22 and compare it to what you could take at 32?
Excuses maybe, but like I said, if it was the same for everyone it’s one thing but the East has it much much easier than the West.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I tell you what if I had a wife and kids I would look forward to the time away hanging out with the boys. I am only 29 so I am not sure how much I can put myself through at 32 but Wednesday night I went out drinking and projectiled all over my bathroom and 7am and then went to work. So I think I can confidently say I am still in my prime. :d
The east does have it easier but again what can you do? It is what it is. I just don’t think that the travel is as arduous as everyone thinks it is.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 2:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You'll understand
when you have kids.
Time away with the boys still the same appeal when it’s your day to day life?
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean let’s be honest they are away from home for what? 41 games, probably double that in days? 82 days a year away from home? Home for 270? Sure they are busy when they are home and even in the off season when they are training a lot but my guess is they have as much or more time with family than people who travel a lot for work, or just have to work 16 hours a day like my dad did to keep a roof over my head.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody's saying
it isn’t a great life, and I agree with you that the travel isn’t huge, but there is a big diff depending on the team/conference.
We’re also talking about elite athletes trying to perform to the very best of their ability in extreme competition, so certainly external factors will hinder that fine line between the perfect execution required to make a play and Failwood.
Besides, your dad have 15,000 screaming fans and tv cameras scrutinizing his every move at work? ; )
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I mean the thing is there is a certain amount of pressure to provide for your family that you must know in many ways is worse than the pressure of having to make a good pass in front of a lot of people. And I can say this because I have a job where sometimes people watch me do what I do, which is talking, and you don’t even really notice them. The mind is a powerful thing.
I do agree though that they travel a lot more than the Eastern teams and fatigue plays a part but they are mostly playing other teams who are fatigued from traveling a lot. The schedule is a joke and I agree with you on that.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The schedule is a joke and I agree with you on that.
I know, that is the real issue isn’t it.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely. Travel is what it is for a Western team but the schedule is making it worse rather than helping IMO. And that is the issue.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. They did get almost everything they asked the league for. As strange as that sounds.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So whack that the Wings (and Leafs in the past) were part of the West. I’d say “poor Wings” but…nah, FUCK DETROIT!
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
“are/were” you know what I mean.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hasn't hurt
the most dominant team in the league since the soilers…
Don’t fight it Zandberg.
It’s good to be Wing.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This could also further prove Section’s point? Kind of. Sure doesn’t hurt that they draft so well.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably because
the league went “huh? you want a bunch of long breaks and back to back games? No problem, just makes it easier to please the other teams who are actually trying to make the sched better for themselves…”
; )
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 3:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They were probably sitting around thinking, “man it is going to be tough to get the Canucks a fair schedule. I am really dreading this meeting with Mike Gillis.” Ten minutes later, “WTF is wrong with this guy? Who cares? This just made my life way easier. Hallelujah, hallelujah, etc etc.”
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
Sackhairy!
WTF is wrong with this guy?
Then again that came about after the loopy Souptin offer so they may have had some idea he wasn’t the sharpest tooth on the saw.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just the truth yoata.
Heard Gillis on TEAM last week, he was on for an hour taking fan’s questions…one was about that offer. He said, paraphrasing, but the exact intent.
“Look, we needed to get his his attention and let the rest of the league know we were serious.”
“It was made clear to us early on that he only wanted to play one year…”
And so on it goes…we all know your position on Sundin.
But just to make the truth part of the discussion, that 20 mil deal you like to use as ammo was never going to happen.
And he ended up getting the player he wanted.
Whether you agree with getting the player is another question of course.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The truth?
According to the guy that made the stupid offer in the first place and a year and a half later was asked to explain it after Soup didn’t even “earn” half that much while he was here?
That might = “truth” to you, being a fan of the koolaid, but to me the real truth is he did in fact make that offer very publicly and therefore it could well have been accepted, and as I’ve said before, that means only Soup’s own apathy prevented this team by being completely fcuked by Gillisgan.
Soup accepts and kiss the twins goodbye, and probably Lu along with them.
But don’t let that “truth” cause you to be in any way critical to God Gillisgan.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta bring those big-named free agents here somehow. I didn’t see them lining up under Nonis.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In todays NHL I am not sure you need to or should be bringing in big name free agents.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So
grossly overpaying = great management?
Plenty of guys have come available who were deserving of big contracts, or already had them, but acquiring them would actually require making a hockey decision, not just throwing money at the problem, those days are gone.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
BAH! Jeopardizing the core of the team? BAH! We spent money and lost nothing. You and I view Sundin differently and value him differently.
It’s something that I would have done (getting Sundin), and I stand by my opinion that free agents don’t line up to play here until now. Where were the fuckers when we had the WCE? Where were they EVER until Gillis got here? Gillis swings deals well. He has balls. He gets the concept of building a team on character. He has more scouts scouting more hockey outfits than his predecessors.
Was Sundin worth it in the end? Debatable. We never got to the Finals but should have. And if the answer is no, then I don’t really care about your hindsight finger-pointing. I still would have done it. That doesn’t make me a koolaid drinker though.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact
that you grossly overestimate Soup’s value is what leads you to believe that Gillis has brought anyone here any better than any other Nuck GM has. What he brought was no better than what Messier brought and he didn’t come with 1/10th the portfolio.
(Getting Sundin) wasn’t the problem so much as the ludicrous offer made to him.
You’re seriously saying you would make that offer?
Debatable???
Again, if a soil/flamer fan said that about a guy that did as little as soup for what he was paid you would laugh him off the board.
You would have done it because you have a hard-on for soup as much as for any reason, that just makes you a different flavor of koolaid drinker. ; )
Has balls? He has yet to make a deal that required that.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Debatable???
You are speaking in hindsight again. I’m talking about at that time.
And yes, I stand by my opinion that the offer was HIGH as a kite, but had to be made in order for us to get him.
It is a different form of koolaid, ya smartass, haha. But I’ve watched a lot of Sundin hockey since the early 90’s, and one guy alone doesn’t win you a championship let alone get to the Finals, plus he was a hell of a hockey player and still was in his final year with the Leafs.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That makes
no sense.
Why does any ridicuous offer have to be made?
You said “was he worth it in the end, that’s debatable”
So you were talking hindsight too.
And I said all these things at the time the offer was made, not just when the inevitable disappointment came to fruition.
He was a good hockey player, never said he wasn’t but he never accomplished a single thing in his career to be worth elite money at any age let alone as an apathetic 37 y/o.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah? You said that back then? You cannot prove that. Prove it.
And I repeat that a ridiculous offer had to be made in order for him to sign here because for whatever reason this city cannot attract big-name game-breaking free agents.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
you think I was ever in favour of that offer?
If they had signed him for half of what they did for a full season I would not have thought it was a good signing, let alone the way it happened, but I have always thought Soup was overrated. If you can point to one single thing he ever did to be deserving of being paid among the top couple of players in the league let alone the highest paid, please do let me know.
Soup was no game-breaker, rarely in his career was he that let alone at 37, certainly not with the Nucks.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 7:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for quoting that, Dan. I’ll bet that any or almost every other team that had the money to spare would have chased Sundin. Fuck, how many of them were ready to dismantle portions of there team to get him as it was? Calling Gillis “not the sharpest tooth on the saw” in regards to the Sundin chase is just silly.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chase?
That’s what you call offering to make an over-the-hill good but never great player who’s not even sure he wants to play anymore by far the highest paid player in the league for two years, completely ignoring the implications that would have for re-signing the core of your team who come due in that time???
Being incapable of criticizing that ridiculous offer is what’s silly.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s called “winning NOW”. You have to make sacrifices to do so.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And you are undermining everything that Sundin brings to the table.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The deal was insane from our perspective, but like I said…how the hell else is a Vancouver GM going to lure a name like that here?
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t think a free agent would want to play in this city with a team close to being a cup contender? We aren’t the Oilers.
*I should again note that I am not a big fan of signing big name free agents you get more Demitras than guys who go the other way. I just think this is a desireable place to play and you don’t have to lure people here with puppies and candy.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And
since when does a bs excuse by the guy who made an ass of himself the way Gillisgan did with that offer in any way = “truth”?
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, it gets really tiresome with you yoata.
Everyone that disagrees with you is “drinking the koolaid”, or “giving Gillisgan a pass”.
The fact is that there were multiple teams pursuing Sundin. A splash had to be made.
So, in addition to mocking Gillis, you mock the GMs of about a half dozen other teams…
It cost nothing but money which the team had.
The team was quite happy with his contribution. They were well aware it was a one year thing, obviously.
I can never understand how you can possibly be so derisive of the best European to play the game.
Every player on that team asked about it, both on and off the record, said they learned from Sundin and though you like to deride his contribution, he had 28 points in 41 games, was a beast down low, made the PP better. Was one of their best player in that Chicago series., as well as contributing against St. Loo.
Won important faceoffs. Forced other teams to send out checking lines against his line, making the Sedins better.
Whatever.
Just try to remember that every other fan on the threads that liked the deal, or likes Gillis, is not automatically worthy of being talked down too.
Please.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Spin
this isn’t about persuing him and you know it.
It’s about a totally idiotic offer that could have damaged this team beyond repair. Again, what about that cost???
the best European to play the game.
rotflmao, not even the best Swede, not even close, talk about koolaid.
What do you expect the players to say? “WTF was Gillis thinking making that offer? No way he’s worth that. He played decent for us but offered depth more than anything worth what he was paid”?
Yeah that kind of honesty happens all the time.
You came out and challenged my opinion here dan, not the other way around, so if you don’t like the way I defend my position (with facts and logic as opposed to biased excuse making) then don’t ask me to do so.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey
you brought up the sched, I’m allowed to offer a differing perspective, just saying, he doesn’t get credit for the minor advantage if he doesn’t take credit for the major drawbacks of his plan.
I know scheduling has always been a problem, and am quite aware of the geography, but imo he’s made it worse, not better.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
3-1 canucks, kesler will get the winner (he’s been working so hard out there, so he’s bound to get one at some point).
this was the game i was actually planning to go to, but it didn’t end up working out :(
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 9:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
5-3 Nucks Raymond GWG. Oh and hopefully Souray gets a trick.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 9:13 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
souray?? why souray?? penner is more likely.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If Souray gets a trick, that mean our PK has gone further south! haha. Do any of you guys believe that Penner will get more than 90 points this year? At least he’s finally earning his $$
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well, it would help for me, i have him in at least one of my pools.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That guy gets injured too much, so I skipped him. I did gamble on Grebeshkov though, and he’s injured. Damn
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
btw, just found this (not sure if it’s still news or not, yahoo might be a week slow or something), naslund is officially coming out of retirement to play with forsberg in modo.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 9:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
haha, yeah that news is weeks old. Naslund is going to take some time to get back in shape because he has only played fun hockey with his little boy, and Forsberg is out for 2 weeks at least with sinusitis. Meanwhile, Modo is in financial trouble
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it’s 11 days old. Jevant caught it back then.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, yahoo finally got the story up today…..
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
6-1 Canucks with Danny scoring the winning goal. May I remind you that I picked Glasser to score winning goal last game which he didn’t——but he did score, so look out Sean, I’m gonna catch you.
by Bobby Canuck on Nov 28, 2009 9:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
The force is strong in you, young Skywalker. But you have much to learn. ;)
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
woohoo! HNIC!! get to watch ovechkin for once! caps and habs are the first game for the HNIC doubleheader (canucks-oilers are second).
coach’s corner too!
isn’t it nice when the canucks get to play on cbc?
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 10:17 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I’m probably not going to like the play by play guys. The play by play is so much better on Sportsnet.
by marcness52 on Nov 28, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a huge fan of Craig Simpson’s color commentary on CBC. He’s got the playing and coaching experience to fuel his insight.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…if we ever got him.
Instead we get the pinhead team…Lee and Goalie Boy.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the sound of Lee’s voice over that TSN guy and Cuthbert’s squeak
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well bless my bark! We get Jim Hughson and Craig Simpson tonight! Alright! I miss Hughson as a Canucks guy.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You gotta love Jimmy. Best in the business. And still a super nice humble man.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's gotten better
used to hate it when he would always spaz out though.
by yoata on Nov 28, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I find John Garrett to be right on and informative.
by Bobby Canuck on Nov 28, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OT.....The Mind Room
On CDC there’s an interesting post regarding the Mind Room, a technology which uses biofeedback to initiate a meditative state in an athlete in order to help the athlete perform at optimum, eliminating all psychological distractions. The Canucks are about to use this technology in order to gain the upper hand on opponents. According to this post the Mind Room is being set up as we write.
http://forum.canucks.com/topic/257730-will-the-canucks-benefit-from-mind-room-technolgy/
by Bobby Canuck on Nov 28, 2009 10:53 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
well, considering how it’s in the forum, i doubt it’s actually happening. i often find that those forums are full of bullshit.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear ya. But it does sound intrigueing.
by Bobby Canuck on Nov 28, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds kinda disturbing like the Manchurian Candidate.
by marcness52 on Nov 28, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
4-1 Canucks, Henrik Sedin with the GWG
by andrew21nz on Nov 28, 2009 11:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
just saw a tweet from canucks.com saying that rypper will once again be a game-time decision, but otherwise the lines are the same.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 12:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I hope it’s his hand and not his head. By head I mean psychological issues. Does anyone know what mental issues he was having in the past? It’s a well-kept secret.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
5-2 Canucks. Blastoff scores the winner.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Oh…4-0. I still think I should get a bonus point for picking the shutout!
Shenanigans!
Winning goal is Salo’s.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You have a good point, but where do we stop? Another point for guessing a hat trick? Another point for guessing OT or a shootout? A point for guessing that Salo gets injured? haha
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think many peeps are leery about predicting shutouts anyways
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope…stop at shutouts…they don’t happen often…they should be rewarded….BTW…its not my fault if the Oil score for Christ’s sakes! I just think Lui is due for one.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK then, let’s vote, all involved. Shutouts count for a point, yes or no? Let’s hear your opinion.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I vote no on the Shutout Point. Interesting idea, tho.
Oh, and 4-2 Canucks, Daniel with the GWG (my standing pick when I’m not sure, like for tonite, how the other team is gonna come out).
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Baaahhh…as an occasional floor hockey goalie, "I fart in your general direction.
Now go away before I taunt yew a second time".
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Floor hockey goalie? Must be the easiest job in the world, no one can shoot a puck thru the floor!
Vee ahccept yewr shallenge!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
*in a ridiculous french accent
“Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!”
great movie. put it on my computer a couple weeks ago.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She’s a killer, I tell you! Run away, run away!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I warned you! But did you listen to me?
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You got that pic off your family genealogy site, didn’t you? I was right!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, google
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Same thing these days. I mean, google is the other half of my brain….
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh…but if you have the Holy Hand Grenade….
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ah yes, the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch!
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, not a killer, A WITCH!!!!
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you do know math!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know…from this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the part with the cow is the funniest thing EVER!!!!
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Try their others too…Meaning of Life is almost as good…here’s a couple of scenes…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzeeaEsIFLs
or…a musical number…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
or how about a wannabe cross-dressing lumberjack ?
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Re The Mind Room …athletes in the zone are playing with little conscious thought, mostly the “close to the brain stem” functions perform automatically and little or no true analysis needs to takes place; think too much and you’re outta the zone. So I suspect the Canucks are just practicing clearing their minds and not over-analyzing.
I presume that a key to making it work, tho, is to be so well-drilled in what you wanna do that that too is automatic. Practice like you’re gonna play, guys. It should be as natural as breathing.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 1:42 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Nucks win
6-1 yep they are gonna explode, Wellfed scores 2 to breakout and Samuelsson with the winner.
by HockeyFan on Nov 28, 2009 1:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Samuelsson is about due to score again isn’t he? I almost picked him.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love lose the pool to you tonite!
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 1:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They should save a few goals for San Jose….
Can you believe the Hawks got Hossa back and won their 1st game with him 7-2 only to get shut out a few days later?
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hawks are good, sure, but they were also punching above their weight for a while there. These things even out.
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well, that would help my head-to-head pool. my opponent this week still has deslaurier set as his goalie…..
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 1:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He picked Deslaurier? Really?
The opposite of serious is not funny; the opposite of serious is unserious.
by casual on Nov 28, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
his benched goalies are turco, biron and toskala.
he’s running out of time to make his changes before the games start today…..
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t DesLauriers french for “loses many times?”
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, “des” is “of” and “laurier” is a small evergreen tree, so deslauriers means “of the small evergreen trees”
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You know I was kidding right?
that’s funny, I was just looking for the meaning of it…
That is a historic name. French settlers, coat of arms, etc.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So he’s a stump then? Excellent!
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What’s Luongo Italian for?
Both Romantic languages…you should know this one missy!!!
;-)
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 2:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i only know french well enough for that.
for italian, i only know basic adjectives that are used as musical terms.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, here’s my first prediction of the year. 3-0 Canucks win, Daniel with the GWG. I figure Louie is due a shoutout the way he’s been playing of late.
by British Canuck on Nov 28, 2009 2:20 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
HNIC coverage just started.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 3:34 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Damn, no Leafs game. Even with Ovechkin playing, I hate watching the Habs
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i almost never get to watch the Habs, so i like it. cbc is the only place where i can find games on tv between teams where neither one is the canucks.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 3:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well look at this, Tom Discount Preissing put on waivers by the Avs today. Any takers for a $2.75 defenceman with a -6 rating in 4 games?
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 3:45 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow…so…basically, the Canucks made him their bitch in two games and the rest of the league gets to decide if he sucks?
I know from reading MHH that they hate his ass…so they are probably happy…
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
haha they just called ovechkin “the NHL’s most charming villain”
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 3:47 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
wow, montreal has a defenseman playing forward, because of so many injuries….
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 4:07 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
btw, japer’s rink is swarmed with caps fan, leafs fans and a canuck right now.
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 4:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Lowetide
really is the best Oiler blog in teh intarwebs. And quite possibly my favorite non-Canuck hockey blog. The comment thread over there is always an amazing read, And anytime Scarlett Johansson makes the gameday thread image, you know it’s a good day.
Now then…
5-1 Canucks
Edler with the GWG because he needs to snap out of his funk.
The Oilers are barely what you would call an NHL team when Hemsky is in the line-up. Without him, they don’t have a prayer of making the playoffs. The team contains a shamble of smallish skill forwards, has a captain that is more deserving of a fourth line low-minutes role, and a defensive core whose only real bright spot is a guy named Visnovsky. And don’t even get me started on the goalie situation.
The Canucks must not lose this game. Seriously.
by Temujin on Nov 28, 2009 4:46 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
here comes grapes…..
i mean no harm. i come in peace. unlike shane o'brien or kevin bieksa........
watch out for the Rypper too, he can whip anyone.......
GO CANUCKS GO!
by missy on Nov 28, 2009 4:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was a good one. Like the idea of putting something on top of the boards to reduce injury.
No one wants to see play like Lemieux and others have done.
And the point about the glass is so right too.
Hard to believe Ed Snider doesn’t have the money to put in the boards that flex like most of the NHL has done. Canucks have to be aware of that next week when they travel to Philly.
Well done Don…nice to see he didn’t have to end on a memorial this week…
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 5:03 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
He was right about superstars killing pens too. Must be the first time in 15 years he was right about something. Guess he has been saving them up.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 5:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…that too…mind you, AV likes to put out the Sedins in the last 30 seconds to get a chance at the end…but I agree overall with not making your superstars your premier penalty killers.
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not even the fact they might get hurt but the fact that they get too much ice then. You have 3rd and 4th liners for that job. So the 1st and 2nd line guys can play lots of 5on5 and PP time.
by Section 312 on Nov 28, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What did Grapes say about the glass? Damn it I missed it. Did he talk about making it more flimsey and not so wall-like? If he did, he’s higher in my hero books.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That Philly is one of the rinks that have the solid glass that doesn’t give.
As I remember,it was cheaper and they all did it.
Then discovered everyone was getting hurt, and most rinks went to the new glass like GM Place went back to, the system that gives.
Personally, I can’t understand why Snider wouldn’t do it…his team like to play aggressive…do they honestly think their own players are not going to get hit too?
The earliest use of the word with the spelling we recognize today is found in "L'Acadie: or Seven Years' Exploration in British America" by James Edward Alexander, published in 1849:
We also met a lusty fellow in a forest road with a keg of whisky slung round him who called to us 'Come boys and have some grog, I'm what you call a canuck"
by vancitydan on Nov 28, 2009 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they should put even more “give” in the glass everywhere. Is that possible? Like I said before, I remember the glass at the LA Forum had lots of it.
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey, I’m an Oilers fan, lol.
We all know they’re good hockey players, but also known around the league as the Sedin Sisters. Here’s one of my bad Photochops:
by Hockey Noob on Nov 28, 2009 5:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I’m going to rec that because I laughed! Nice work, Noob…you fucker! haha
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Canucks win tonight and the Sedins are a major factor, I will have a Photoshop to counteract that! It’s saved and in waiting
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 5:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rypien is a game time decision tonight. The Province is saying that his upper body injury derived from a hit he took in the Chicago game. In regards to his hands he said:
“I’ve got to get a couple of things checked out, but I’ll be fine,” said Rypien. “The hands are fine. They’ll be like this [bandaged] all year.”
by Sean Zandberg on Nov 28, 2009 5:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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