Like It Or Not, Here Raycroft Comes
by Yankee Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 12:43 PM PDT
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Update: 12:37 PM PST: Rick Rypien and Sami Salo will play tonight. Shane O'Brien will sit out. Poor OB-wan. Please don't put a mic in front of his face today or tonight. He can't be all that pleased right now. Also, in a bit of a shocking move, Aaron Rome will play on the 4th line with Tanner Glass and Rick Rypien, as Darcy Hordichuk will sit. Is the Hordichuk era almost over now? It's beginning to look like it.
Thanks to Beantown Canuck and Section 312 for the heads up in the FanPost section.
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Sami Salo and Rick Rypien will be game time decisions tonight, but if you had to choose between the two, it's a safe most would prefer Salo back on the blueline because, with Andrew Raycroft set to start his first Vancouver game, the defense will need to be a rock. A pretty big rock.
If you stare at the numbers, Raycroft isn't just bad, he damn near sets the bar for awful. We took a look at Raycroft this summer and, at the time, we could at best recognize a goalie who used to have skill but whether the game got away from him (as in Toronto) or he just became positionally lazy and stopped caring (as in Colorado) we don't know. In his best season with the Leafs, he ranked 36th in save percentage (.894) and 32nd in GAA. With the Avs, he let in four goals twelve times in 31 appearances. The counterpoint is he was playing behind some weak and heavily injured teams.
Tom Benjamin theorized his best strength was that no one would want him and he could pass through waivers without a GM giving him a second glance. But then the crazy happened: Raycroft Version 4.0 was lights out in the preseason and stole the the back-up job away from presumed back-up Cory Schneider. In losing efforts against Columbus and Calgary, he has relieved Luongo and stopped 16 of 17 shots, good enough for a 1.14 GAA and a .917 S%. But the preseason means nothing and spelling Luongo twice doesn't equal a strong 60 minute game.
So despite the positive early returns, we still don't know which version of Raycroft we're going to get. His detractors will be out in full force expecting him to implode. So be it. But just as with Luongo, he'll be greatly assisted if the blueline doesn't abandon him. Expect AV to preach defensive responsibility in particular and, in addition, the importance of playing with the lead; they can't play shutdown hockey in the third and expect Raycroft or Schneider to consistently save them.
IF Vancouver can play better defensively (someone will have to step up in the shot blocking department with Johnson gone), IF their PP keeps rolling (now third best at 29.1%) and IF they can play more effectively at even strength, then Raycroft just needs to be average. Maybe the silver lining is, without their captain, the Canucks have a chance to firm up the sloppier parts of their game that they've been able to neglect because of their captain.
That's a lot of IF's. We'll see.
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whether or not this has anything to do with Andrew Raycroft being promoted to starting goalie for the Vancouver Canucks remains to be seen.
Bring me Stanley. Alive if possible, dead... just as good.
by King Luongshanks on Oct 29, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s because everyone’s going as a ghost or as greek for halloween.
by thelastjohnny on Oct 29, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And 14 votes in...
…admirable play with the win has a COMMANDING 78% of the vote!
Here’s hoping.
by Jevant on Oct 29, 2009 10:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Love it! There’s positivity out there!
Mike, holy hell, it’s like Rayzor banged your girl or something :)
Such reckless hate
Maybe the silver lining is, without their captain, the Canucks have a chance to firm up the sloppier parts of their game that they’ve been able to neglect because of their captain.
That’s my train of thought exactly.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Na, no reckless hate. I’d like him to do well, but his past numbers are tough to overlook. I can deal with him sucking if the team in front of him looks better. I’m more nervous that than anything else…if they play well and he coughs up some soft ones, well chances were that would happen. But if the team sucks in front of him and then he implodes on top of it…well…saaaaad.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at it the way I do Yank…
GAA is a TEAM stat. Sure, the goalie has the biggest impact on it, but the team he is playing for now has had a better team GAA than the other two, has it not?
We’ll see some slightly more boring hockey, but I am looking forward to no real drop off. You guys are all thinking last year and yes…the team did not do well after Lou went down.
But that was last year. Everybody learnt from it. Schneider will be less dear in the headlights.
Razer has his big chance….hopefuly he runs with it.
1st game and the adrenaline? 3-1 Canucks, and the goal is a tip.
vancitydan
by vancitydan on Oct 29, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure it’s a fair comparison between an entire year with the Leafs, a split year in Colorado and now one game in Vancouver. If anything it shows that when given the chance to be the #1 he wasn’t good. But that too is ignoring a lot of variables as to the quality of the team in front of him.
I’m more concerned about the team, not him. If the team tightens up, all Razor has to do is not flat out stink. But if Vancouver let’s the Kings hack away at him, stand on top of him and flood him with shots, I am not terribly hopeful.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to be the type of player that does well when everyone else isn’t counting on him to succeed.
Bring me Stanley. Alive if possible, dead... just as good.
by King Luongshanks on Oct 29, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. I doubt the Avs fans were overly ecstatic to get him last year. Everybody knew the Avs were in deep shit with the Budaj/Raycroft combo.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dear in the headlights.
Is that what happens when you run over your wife? :) I kid.
Dan has a bit of a point there. The Canucks are way better defensively than the Avs and Leafs were. They had better play well in front of Rayzor, because I also hear what Mike is basically saying..he’s no Craig Anderson.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/10/28/1104999/canucks-starting-goalie-andrew
These guys are sure enjoying that he is playing though!
vancitydan
by vancitydan on Oct 29, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Figures. Toronto slagging another goalie they are pretty much responible for destroying.
Critiquing other teams goalies. Gotta admire the shameless hypocricy.
I firmly believe there isn’t a goalie in the NHL Toronto could not destroy while totally ignore the team playing in front of him is not at all to blame.
by kesrows on Oct 29, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
raycroft was terrible when he came to toronto, he was terrible when he was in toronto, and he has been terrible since he left toronto
you want to blame someone for “destroying him” check out his stats with Boston after his rookie year
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a good point there Jared. But really, don’t you guys have enough to worry about? Oh, you need to laugh at others to feel better about yourselves right now. Fair enough. :)
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, my hate for raycroft sucking so bad when he was a leaf is ingrained into my very being and I cannot wish him well, I did the same thing last year when he was on the Avs
this has nothing to do with his current team
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope you rooted for Sundin last year.
by Bobby Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no comment as it may be used to incriminate me at a later date
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps the Cloutier thing here is about the equivalent if not worse.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever Cloutier did, he didn’t deserve the treatment he got from LA, I know that much.
by thelastjohnny on Oct 29, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clouts was a pretty good goalie and gets more stick than he deserves. Injuries played a part in his poor playoff performances and he, a bit like Fuhr, would have had better numbers but for the system being played in front of him. Although having said that I was in the building when Lidstrom scored from center and I can’t forgive him for that. So whatever he gets he deserves.
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not buying it
Cloutier’s preformance always took a nose-dive in the post-season… when he was healthy enough to even play.
He was the one who benefitted from the the high-octane team in front of him, he was irrelevant a lot of nights due to the offense and was bailed out by them others.
Lack of playoff goaltending is the single biggest reason those teams never got past the 2nd round, Crow’s lack of attention to D notwithstanding.
What Clutz has done since (or rather not done) is further proof.
by yoata on Oct 30, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was an article a while back that said that he was injured for awhile and given no help in recuperating and they bought him out while he was injured, which I’m pretty sure is against the PA rules.
Plus there are things non-LA specific, too.
by thelastjohnny on Oct 29, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected Jared.
You have to admit though, there is a long list of goalies that went to the scrap heap after TO (not to exlude ourselves from the same thing).
by kesrows on Oct 29, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair, most of those goalies sucked when they got here too, or were old, broken down and crazy when they left (Eddie and Cujo)
Fuhr did pretty well for himself after though….
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And…where was the Leafs defence in those years? It was atrocious!
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, yes it was
thank god for Cujo and Crazy Eddie
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you’re talking about their performances just before they left town?
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, they were ON, especially in the playoffs (yes we’ve been there too)
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
see now thats just mean
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poor Eddie. He was playing his heart out there and the D: Belak and McCabe hand over 2 two-on-ones. Nasty stuff.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps one could argue that the Leafs’ D wasn’t much better with Raycroft in net….
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the leafs D was much better in front of Raycroft than it had been in years, if it wast he wouldnt have the most wins for a Leaf goalie in a single season (vomit)
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good point. good point. Pains you to give him any praise at all huh? I still can’t believe Rayzor has that record.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that D will get it together this season and you can ride Jonas. It’s gonna work eventually.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i refuse to give him any praise for that, it wasnt him at all
also since were posting painful playoff memories
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that pick bounced and dipped on him :)
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sure it did
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think you would post this one.
Though the people look like , at the time, they were having fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Il3UlV2ars
Friggen Canuck fans huh?
Except most of those guys weren’t real fans anyhow.
vancitydan
by vancitydan on Oct 29, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh Memories...
The video quality is SHIT, but it’s the best one I could find…
by Temujin on Oct 29, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
once you’re subjected to giving up your best goaltending prospect plus a pick and then forced to watch Raycroft start for two years, you’ll feel the same.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he came at a steep price heh? Jesus.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate jfj so much
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so what are your thoughts of what Burke is doing?
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
patience, young grasshopper.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the moves themselves were good, there was no way in telling that the combination of the parts would be so bad.
Gustavsson being hurt and the terrible play of the other goalies killed the teams confidence most nights
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is very good at opening the door on the benc
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
we’re hoping a horrible team can injure his rib with a hard shot
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont know how a Leaf shot injured him. He must have been standing beside the net.
by kesrows on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if there is one thing jason blake is good at, its hitting the goalie square in the chest with his shots
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hitting the goalie square in the chest with his shots
We have plenty of that nightmare.
by Bobby Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my husband is a Canucks fan and calls Mason Raymond “Mason Blake” a lot
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was covering the post and the shot kind of hit him below or above the chest protector
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure. BTW, I posted that Roenick clip because I thought you were hacking on Eddie and/or being sarcastic. Couldn’t tell. Wasn’t trying to be a smartass.
When does Kessel come back?
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe Tuesday.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Holy hell. Well that’s going to boost them Leafers. I’d put $$$ on that
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
woulda won last night, we had 18 shots on Dallas in the first, to their 2, and couldn’t put any in.
We need his finish.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I watched that game. Madness. Love watching the Monster though.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he reminds me of CuJo.
A giant, oversized CuJo.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
with a touch of Hasek in there :)
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i took it as a playful jab
we loved crazy eddie before he replaced all his spinal fluid with mad dog 20-20
they are saying Kessel is on schedule for the 10th, but ive heard as early as the 3rd
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice we can have a civil conversation Karina and Jared. That will change though;) When do the LEafs /Canucks play again? January 30? Yup.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
January 30th. Hopefully we’ll be a very different team by then.
Also, I thank Kessel and Erhoff for carrying my fantasy team lately.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WELLWOOD IS FAT!
heh
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rome playing 4th line? Interesting…
I, for one, won’t miss SOB in the back end. He’s been okay up to now but I just don’t like his game that much.
by cyxj on Oct 29, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If they are happy with Rome and with the depth on the farm then SOB should be used as trade bait for a team looking to toughen up on the back end. Maybe the Leafs want some more truculence?
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on SOB as trade bait. We can still call up Luko too (similar cap hit) and hope no one gets him on re-entry waivers.
by cyxj on Oct 29, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rome is a forward now? God helps us all…
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I mentioned this on my post, but are we sure Rome is really playing on the 4th line? Or is he extra insurance in case we go down a d-man (ahem – salo) during a game? The 4th line doesn’t play much as it is, and I have a feeling a double shift or two will come from Kes and Burr with that line.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point. Rome does sounds like in-game insurance for Salo or any other D.
He’s only gonna be in a plugger role (6-8 minutes), which isn’t TOO difficult. And if he’s awful, Burr or whoever can take an extra shift.
by cyxj on Oct 29, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I got the info about him playing fourth line from Jason Botchford’s twitterings but that doesn’t mean it is the case. He could have been skating with the 4th line at a pre-game skate but that doesn’t mean that is where he will end up.
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have a lot of fw depth, at least potentially when everyone is healthy, and the possibility of 4 decent scoring lines is open to us. But who would be the enforcer in games where we iced such a lineup?
SOB?
by casual on Oct 29, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure I follow. What sort of lineup?
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Grabs
Sammy-Demo-Shirokov
Bernier-Wellwood-Hansen
He is wondering if we are healthy and a lineup like that is in there then where is the truculence coming from.
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly think Raycroft will surprise tonight. I think this year he’s actually motivated since he’s fighting to be a starter or at least a half and half starter for another team.
I am, however, entirely cognizant of the fact I could be entirely wrong.
Here’s hoping I’m not!
by sfont on Oct 29, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much what I was going to post.
I think he will get a pretty fair shot to succeed, as anytime Luongo has gone down, Canuck defensive play has been lights out the first few games the backup gets between the pipes. Then everything generally goes to hell after that.
This season is basically Razor’s last chance to prove he can be an NHL goalie. I think, or at least hope, he will show tonight that he is not ready to call it a career.
Starting off against an LA offence which is on fire to start the season will definitely be a test.
by kesrows on Oct 29, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he was playing in a contract year last season and look at what happened
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rome at forward?
Is the apparently muti-talented Aaron Rome the next Ian White? (Sans moustache, of course).
Here’s hoping, actually. White is far and away my favourite Leaf.
by nucksandpucks on Oct 29, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you are an optimistic bunch I’ll give you that
but really, Raycroft is terrible, just terrible
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What concerns me is Raycroft’s inability to look big in net when he goes down in that butterfly style.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what concerns you? I think my biggest concern is that Raycroft isn’t very good at stopping the puck.
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked how he played down low in preseason. I thought he made great saves. Missed a couple of roofers though from what I can remember
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well preseason is different. That’s what scares me. Preseason is like AHL level hockey, there are usually only 3 or 4 guys with NHL finishing ability playing in preseason games depending on who you play. And his career GAA and Save% is pretty awful.
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shoot high on Raycroft. Everyone knows that.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
shoothighon Raycroft. Everyone knows that.
everyone knows that
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by JaredFromLondon on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shooting high on any goalie is the way to go. It’s hard to get the time and space to pick that top corner though.
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. So if the Canucks keep the Kings at bay and don’t give them any prime chances we should be fine (unless it’s deflected in of a stick)
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you guys seriously haven’t watched Raycroft.
You’ll be OK if you can score 4+ goals, and don’t give the Kings any prime chances.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
um
please watch some video of Raycroft.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please leave us with our delusions please.
by Section 312 on Oct 29, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m trying to save you from heartache.
"The only way out is in a body bag. Go Leafs Go." - Blinky
by Karina on Oct 29, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Honestly I prefer Raycroft’s play over Schnider’s based on what I saw in the pre-season. I know Razor sucked for the leafs and avs, but maybe our goalie coaching staff has got him into shape.
SOB – cry boy can sit out. I’d like to see him traded. He can score on his own net for some other team.
Burrows + Canucks = Stanley Cup!
by SpeakUp on Oct 29, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think long term no one is wanting Razer to be the starter.
But with him and Schneider for the time period we are talking about, 2-3 weeks at worst (hopefully!)…
raycroft is good enough. He earned the job.
And he has had a chance to work with not just the coach, but Luongo…which is a good thing.
If even a little rubbed off!
vancitydan
by vancitydan on Oct 29, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m excited at the possibility of Schneider playing goal in the near future and achieving his AHL abilities. Slim but not none.
by Bobby Canuck on Oct 29, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And a whopping majority believes Rayzor believes he plays well and we win. Lovin’ the positivity, folks!
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 29, 2009 4:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently we can watch the game live on Yahoo sports for those that don’t want to drop 15 bucks for the PPV or go to Boston Za?
by sfont on Oct 29, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Leafs fan
I’m a Leafs fan, an actual fan, and am not living with dementia. It is so pathetic how my fellow Leafs fans still hate Raycroft. That is such childish behaviour. See, everyone at that time had this delusion that the Leafs were good. In retrospect, nobody can argue that that was the case. Hindsight is 20/20, yes, but people should now to lighten up on Rayzor, now that we can clearly see he was not the problem. Does anyone recall that during the Raycroft season when we missed the playoffs by a point, Sundin scored 1 goal in the last 20 games? Yet it was Raycroft’s fault. Rayzor tied the record of most wins, and people don’t realize what a toll it takes on your body to play as much as he did. Maybe he should have just given up and let the Leafs deal with Aubin (he worked out well eh??). I hope Raycroft does really well with the Canucks.
by LosBillesdeBuffalo on Oct 30, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Raycroft
Boy was that a gutsy performance by razor last night, man he played well. Another good looking pickup by Gilles. I keep waiting for the messy haired GM to make a bad move but the guy knows what he is doing. As for all the Leafs that were hating so hard on Raycroft yesterday, you can take your feet out of your collective mouths now. Well done Andy.
by HockeyFan on Oct 30, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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