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5 reasons why the 'Nucks start slow

In light of the early-season reflections going on around here, I thought I'd chip in about the disturbing Canucks trends that Sean pointed out. So far, there's certainly reason for concern in Canucksland. If it weren't for the fact that Detroit, Anaheim, and Vancouver are out of the playoffs, while Colorado, Los Angeles, Edmonton, and Phoenix are in, it would look a lot like we'd have an uphill climb from this point onwards. As it is, we can take comfort in the fact that these standings are very unlikely to remain as is, and, with only three points separating us and Calgary, we're definitely not in Minnesota Wild-caliber trouble at this juncture.

Still, with our defense looking like swiss cheese more often than we'd like, and the injury bug doing more than bugging us, it would be unwise to assume a spot in the playoffs is guaranteed. With Anderson playing the way he is and Edmonton as riddled by injuries as we are and still playing well, the Northwest looks to be a tough division once again, after a few years of weakness. That being said, these negative trends are probably overstated. The best argument against them, in my opinion, is the same one that's been tossed around for the last little bit: The Canucks are notoriously slow at getting the ball rolling. Assuming this start is the worst hockey we'll see from the Canucks all year, they're bound to be on the up and up, while teams like Colorado seem to be poised for the bubble to pop.

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At first, such statements have the ring of irrational hope to them. "Oh yeah, those Canucks fans are always talking about 'if only Lou were playing better', or 'If only we got better breaks offensively'", one might say in response. But there's no denying that the return of Sedin, the continued development of our depth players, and better play from Luongo would all make the Canucks a far more potent team. And with a three-game winning streak in hand the evidence seems to support the hope. The fact that the same story played out last year seems to stack the odds in our favour, although it leaves the question: Why are the Canucks so bad at the start of the season?

I'd like to offer five reasons (with a lot more possible ones out there) as to why the Canucks are so bad in October.

#1- Roberto Luongo.

Everyone knows that Luongo is the heart and soul of this Canucks team. Since his arrival, the team has been built from the crease outwards. He's the highest-paid player on the team, the controversial captain, and the only one on the team who is likely to win a major award in his career. He's the most fiery man on the ice in the playoffs, the most vocal about his desperation to win, and the first to have the magnifying glass turned on him when the team is doing poorly. One simply cannot overstate the degree to which the Canucks management have built up Luongo as the core of this franchise.

Unfortunately, there are two trends which seem to arise every year with El Capitaine. The first is that he doesn't do particularly well at the beginning of the season. He takes time to adjust to different defensive styles. He lets up far more rebounds, and doesn't make the spectacular saves against odd-man rushes that he's capable of. This year, the numbers were particularly abhorrent, as he kicked off with a sub-.900 save percentage and a phenomenally high GAA. But there's nothing new about the slow start of Luongo. And as long as he's off, the Canucks are missing their best player.

With a 27-save shutout, we can be hopeful that he's back in the game now. Assuming he avoids any major injury, we should be in for another whopper of a season from Lou. And you know what? So long as he kicks into gear soon enough, there's no reason for "fans" to rail so heavily against him for the slow start. If we get over 100 points in the season and contend for top spot in the Northwest, it doesn't really matter if we start out with 4 losses in 5 games. The trend that needs to disappear is his playoff difficulties. Start slow, Lou, but give us a good finish, at least.

#2- Our dependence on depth scoring.

Not many teams depend as much as the Canucks do on their depth players. The Sedins may be considered among the top-20 forwards in the league, but we saw how bad the team is when they're the only ones scoring a couple of years ago. We need our secondary scoring to be in place, otherwise we'll lose a lot more than we win thanks to our central performers being point-per-game performers at best.

Unfortunately, this means waiting for some of the players to step it up a notch. Unlike the stars, who you can count on to perform to the max every year, guys like Kesler and Burrows take time to find their groove, and that groove is often with a completely different line than last year's. Each new line has to figure out what strengths they can play to, and how to work with one another in terms of playmaking and scoring. Lines like our newly-dubbed "speed line" take time to solidify, unlike the Sedin Twins' magical act. And that means we're going to take time to get scoring up enough to win regularly.

#3- Our lack of defensive studs.

Let's face it, even with Ohlund, this team was short on big-name defensemen. With him gone, Willie Mitchell is the only guy with any established renown to his name, and he's not disappointed so far this season. Instead, it's the guys like Edler, Bieksa, and O'Brien who we count on to keep the odd-man rushes down. Because there's no Lidstoms and Rafalski workhorses to eat up 30 minutes a game, our corps depends on the young guys gelling and settling down their game enough to keep the opposition away from our net.

A big deal has been made of Edler's slow start and the general troubles of our blueline. Are these fair claims? Edler is doing quite well offensively so far, which points to the need for him to slow down some and be responsible defensively. Salo's injured again, which is no surprise, but more importantly the return of guys like Schneider is going to make a big difference in leadership. Until these young guys have grown up and developed the defensive instincts that make the Lidstroms so great, they'll always take time to get back into that state whereby they take the risks when they're necessary, but generally know how to hold back and keep the opposition in check.

#4- Our developing youth.

Let's face it, this is something new in Vancouver. Since the 2003 draft, during which Kesler was picked up, the Canucks have been focusing more and more on developing their young studs. With a number of good players on the horizon, it's an exciting time for us fans. But it also makes for more fluidity at the beginning of the season. When you can't be sure who your second-, third-, and fourth-liners are going to be thanks to a bumper crop of guys who have the potential to crack the lineup, it takes some time to figure out lines. And, of course, those young players themselves take time to adjust to NHL-caliber hockey. So long as we have active development of young players, we can expect some difficulty in the early season.

#5- Vignault's a system guy.

Every other factor here has pointed straight to the staff, though it has yet to be pointed out. Vignault is a man who lives by systems, and Vancouver in turn lives by his decisions. What he decides directly impacts every part of our on-ice game. The scoring is slow to develop because Vignault likes to juggle lines and figure out which combinations work and which rookies will fit into his system. The defensemen are annually challenged to work with a changing level of defensive responsibility, depending on whether Vignault wants the team to play the trap or fire wagon hockey. And Luongo's early struggles are partly due to the weak defensive system that results. Once the team has established a routine, it flies. But it takes time for these things to develop, and Vignault is Ent-like when it comes to hasty decisions.

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Very solid post. Well put.

by Jevant on Oct 27, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed

This is what fanposts destined for the homepage are all around. Great job!

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Good lord. Great post! I’ll digest it some and comment further on it soon.

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Great post. I especially think the point about the age of our defensemen is important. Edler is only 23, which is really young for a d-man to be relied on heavily. Bieksa is 28, and should be hitting his prime, but still he’s been playing a big-time role over the past few seasons for someone in his mid-20s. Hopefully Schneider along with Mitchell provides that veteran maturity our d-corps needs.

by nucksandpucks on Oct 27, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions  

and the only one on the team who is likely to win a major award in his career

I don’t disagree with this point although if you consider the Selke award major then Kesler with his solid all around game has to be on the list with Luongo for potential major award winner.

With a 27-save shutout, we can be hopeful that he’s back in the game now.

Six goals against in the last 5 starts. That’s a GAA of 1.20. I think he is back. No need to be hopeful anymore. Now we can be expectant.

guys like Kesler and Burrows take time to find their groove

Kes has 3 points in his last 5 games. 6 in 6 prior to that. He actually started out hot and has cooled a little lately.

And, of course, those young players themselves take time to adjust to NHL-caliber hockey. So long as we have active development of young players, we can expect some difficulty in the early season.

How many young guys actually cracked the line-up to open the season? Opening night the only new players were Sammy, Ehrhoff and Shirokov and of those three of course only Shirokov is young. The real difficulty we encountered early in the season was that our coaching staff couldn’t be bothered to play a game or two of exhibition play with all of the vets in at the same time.

The scoring is slow to develop because Vignault likes to juggle lines and figure out which combinations work and which rookies will fit into his system.

AV juggles lines all year long whenever he feels like it so you can’t say that juggling has much to do with a slow start offensively. Otherwise his constant juggling of lines would lead to low scoring all year long. And as we know the Canucks aren’t really a low scoring team. They are an average scoring team. Usually right around the middle of the pack in the NHL. You can win a lot of games scoring that much.

I have to say that I don’t really agree with this post. I really think that the struggles of this team early on are easily explanable. One, as was mentioned above, Luongo starts slow. No big deal we are used to that and know what to expect. The other factors are management. We have injury prone guys (Salo, Schneider was already hurt when we got him, Demitra is a puss) and then get upset when we get the injury “bug”. It’s not a bug, it’s the make up of the team. And the other reason we started slow is that at no point in the preseason did our likely to start the season team play together. You can’t just throw Sammy out on the PP with Kes and Bieksa or whatever combinations we used to start the year and expect them to click if half of them didn’t play with the other half in the exhibition games.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Are we complaining about injuries?
then get upset when we get the injury "bug"

I don’t really think the Canucks or us fans whine too much about it. We lost Lou last year and kept on trucking. Yeah of course we’ll notice and comment when a key player goes down, but I don’t see anyone using this as an excuse. Everyone gets injuries and deals with them (except for Calgary, who just spends to the cap and then whinges when a couple guys get hurt and they have to dress too-few men).

by nucksandpucks on Oct 27, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I have read or heard from Canucks fans the last two weeks are people complaining about the injury bug. Or complaining about the bad start and then blaming injuries, which is the same thing in a roundabout way.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not a bug, it’s the make up of the team

Agreed that we have a couple fragile guys, but I think one thing Gillis has done really well is shore up our depth so that the injuries sting a little less. We have three forwards who started in the AHL on the roster right now, and we’re still winning games. And we have guys like Aaron Rome on the blue line to step in when guys go down.

So I definitely don’t blame management on this front, in fact I commend them for anticipating injuries and acting accordingly.

by nucksandpucks on Oct 27, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Salo still being here, Demitra being brought in, Schneider signed when he was hurt. That’s all management. The depth? Rome isn’t depth. He has been terrible. Grabner wasn’t MG draft pick either.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough about Demitra, I think we’d all agree it wasn’t the best signing especially given the price tag. Sure Schneider was hurt, but we also had Bieksa, Mitchell, Ehrhoff, SOB, Salo (for a limited time) and Edler to start the year with, plus Lukowich as insurance if he makes it through waivers. So it’s not like we were relying on Schneider to step in right away.

As for Salo, I don’t think he was an MG re-signing (could be wrong) so getting some depth is the best way to alleviate his inevitable absences from the lineup.

And yeah, you’re right about Grabner. But MG has brought in some solid guys that have bought Grabner some time to develop in the AHL instead of being forced into the NHL before he was ready. Without guys like Bernier or Wellwood, we probably would’ve thrown Grabner and Hodgson to the wolves last season and who knows how they would’ve coped?

by nucksandpucks on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well i mean my point with Salo is get rid of him. Could have bought him out. That money would have helped us go after a similar level of player but with a better health record. I dream of a world where the Canucks are without Wellwood and Bernier. It’s a wonderful place.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, without Wellwood who will we make fun of? I’m willing to give him and Bernier a couple years to see if they’ve got it, but if not we’ve got Hodgson, Grabner, Shirokov, Schroeder, etc. coming up as replacements.

Okay, I got your point on Salo and I can see the logic. I mean if he’s out half the time anyway, we might as well take the cap hit of buying him out and free up a little extra space. I’m not sure I support that idea, but I see your point. At least it would end this constant string of missing games due to injury.

by nucksandpucks on Oct 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well i mean my point with Salo is get rid of him

I can’t count how many times I have thought that

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kes has 3 points in his last 5 games. 6 in 6 prior to that. He actually started out hot and has cooled a little lately.

It’s a good point. I don’t think Kesler was playing top of his game until the last few though. He’s been a shot-blocking machine of late, and our PK is being dragged up bit by bit because of him and other character players! Saying he had a point per game isn’t really saying much about Kesler’s game, since, as you pointed out, he could be a darkhorse contender for a Selke someday.

How many young guys actually cracked the line-up to open the season? Opening night the only new players were Sammy, Ehrhoff and Shirokov and of those three of course only Shirokov is young. The real difficulty we encountered early in the season was that our coaching staff couldn’t be bothered to play a game or two of exhibition play with all of the vets in at the same time.

How many young people have we seen in the lineup so far? Well, under 25ers include Shirokov, Rome, Bernier, Bolduc, Desbien (barely counts), Grabner, and Raymond. Almost none have played every game so far.

AV juggles lines all year long whenever he feels like it so you can’t say that juggling has much to do with a slow start offensively. Otherwise his constant juggling of lines would lead to low scoring all year long. And as we know the Canucks aren’t really a low scoring team. They are an average scoring team. Usually right around the middle of the pack in the NHL. You can win a lot of games scoring that much.

He’s certainly juggling lines a lot more right now than he did after they found their groove last year. Yes, he always juggles. Every coach does, to some degree, although he’s got more of a reputation for it than most. I think it’s a good point that we can score a lot with AV juggling lines, but I don’t think it can be denied that he takes his time establishing consistent pairings, which will then tend to stick together for a while, until they go cold, and will likely reunite when some heat is needed.

And, as nucksandpucks says, I don’t think anyone was complaining about injuries. In fact, none of is surprised whatsoever that Salo and Demo are injured, although no one can say they anticipated the fall of a Sedin!

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I’ll correct myself immediately and point out that Rome is older than 25. My bad.

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

All those young guys cracked the lineup because of injuries or are veteran guys at a young age like Bernier who were here last year. You can’t blame young guys and getting to know everyone’s strengths and all that when there were only three new guys on the opening night roster. That’s all I was saying,

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think your point about not playing veterans in the pre-season is a fine point to make. I don’t think you can remove the young player factor, though. Developing youth means developing talent. You never know where a guy like Bernier is going to fit into a lineup even if he was here last year, because there’s a lot of hype and disappointment associated with players who have supposedly grown a year’s worth talent-wise.

Can you blame the loss to the Flames solely on new additions? Of course not. But you can blame the sub-.500 record and the lack of coherent offense and defense at least partly on the fact that we have a number of young players coming in and out of the lineup and even more contributing at varying rates.

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exdlain the Avs then. Should not they have started slow having so many young players? Two 18 year olds. And a new number 1 D man who is 24 in Quincey.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not denying that other factors are important. Weight them how you want. Luongo’s play and the dependence on depth forwards are probably more important than the number of developing players, if you will.

As for Colorado, probably the most important part of this factor that even their developing players are not top-line talent. Colorado’s got two 18 year olds who are positively brilliant and a guy who’s got the talent to be a top defenseman already playing at NHL level. When you have a Tavares or a Duchene, you don’t worry about where he’ll fit in, you just stick him on the top line and wait for the magic. Vancouver doesn’t have that. They depend a lot on their second-, third-, and fourth-lines, and this year a number of players who have filled those spots have been young players who are sometimes able to fill big shoes, and other times aren’t, because they’re middling talents and still learning consistency among other things.

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with a lot of what you are saying Neb so don’t take what I am saying the wrong way. But if you want to claim that one factor for the Canucks slow start is that they were developing youth you aren’t going to find me ever agreeing with you on that one. First of all they aren’t developing their talent all that well as far as I am concerned but that is a debate for another time.

The preseason is the time to see if guys are ready to play at this level and to build towards the season. Developing players goes on at all times throughout the season and off season. We should have been playing our top guys in the last 2 or 3 games if the preseason not still looking to see who was developing.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly Colorado wasn’t a bad team to begin with. They just had way too many injuries and horrific goaltending last year. They had a solid core to begin with up front and their 18 year olds have been playing extremely well. Quincey too who they got when they salary dumped Smyth. All of that, a strong start from Tucker of all people and Anderson settling in explain why they’re in first IMHO.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 27, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anderson is so good that it freaks me out. What if he doesn’t let up? We don’t know what he’s capable of doing over a long stretch. The Avs bubble may not burst if that guy plays the way he does. And he HAS to play more because apparently Budaj has the swine flu

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh by the way Kesler can’t be considered a “dark horse for Selke someday” after he was a finalist last year. He was already in the top 3 for that award once no reason he won’t win it a couple times. he is kind of a Mike Peca type after all. The only thing I can find wrong with Kes is that he is American.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess so. I seem to recall that a lot of the “new stats” guys like to rail against him, saying his corsi isn’t as high as many other finalists or something. Not that the NHL pays attention to those things. But he’s probably more than a dark horse, depending on what other defensive forwards happen to develop around the same time… some people seem to think that Richards is going to own the trophy for the next decade!

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

In regards to point #3: I think that Bieksa, who is now 28 years old, should be considered a “stud” by now. If he’s not, then he’s either never going to be, or is a serious late-bloomer. What more does he need to learn? Well, actually it’s probably not quite fair to say that. I can remember Bryan McCabe saying he learned a lot from Brian Leetch when the Leafs acquired the Hall of Famer.
Regardless, Bieksa’s time is NOW. 43 points last year, 42 in 2006-07. I expect that much and a little more out of him. I expect 45-50 points and more stable play. I think it’s fair to say that Christian Ehrhoff (27 years old) is in the same boat. These guys may not be as renowned as a Lidstrom or Rafalski, and that is fine. The last “renowned” defenceman we had walked to go get paid 7 or 8 million in Phoenix. Sorry, I don’t think we should be paying a defenceman that. Not when I believe our D is pretty solid the way it is and we could use that money up front.

As far as depth up front goes…I hope Burrows can make his way back onto the top line and yeah, he needs to pick it up a little. Henrik has slowed lately. I think Kesler has been great lately, Samuelsson…can’t overly complain. It’s that line 3 that really gets my goat. Woody’s 1 assists is terrible. He’s one guy who is easy to pick on, even though he keeps getting new linemates. So then Bolduc has to cash in on occasion. He has not done that yet. I’m a little torn on Bernier. 6 points in 11 games. That would put him on track for about 45 points…maybe 22 goals. Sorry Bernier, with all that hype about you being in shape I expect 30 goals and 50 points out of you.

All this being said, it’s all going to come together for this team to the degree that we expect it to. Line 3 is going to step up to the plate eventually, and we’ll have 3 lines that can do damage. In the meantime, Luongo stays Luongod and we score an average of 3 goals per game.
I’m rambling.

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I won’t disagree with much you’ve said. My only thought is that for a defenseman, “prime” comes a lot later than forwards. Right now, Bieksa and Erhoff should be at the best of their physical ability. But it takes a lot longer for a defenseman to really master those things which make them perfect at the shutdown. I can see them really performing at their utmost around 33-35, perhaps?

Do I think any will ever be a Lidstrom? Very unlikely, although I’ll admit I’m watching Edler with great interest. But Bieksa, Erhoff, and the younger guys have got a number of good years left in them, while Mitchell always impresses me with both his defensive ability and his leadership qualities. There’s a good foundation here!

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

although I’ll admit I’m watching Edler with great interest.

Me too buddy. Me too. I would hope the D aren;t in their prime at 33-35. Gotta be a bit younger than that don’t they? I guess there are always exceptions to every rule.

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Neb Canuck

……..for a wonderfully comprehensive and astute analysis.
I’m happy that you mentioned the coaching staff. I like Av’s coaching (and his rapport and treatment of his players) but I wish they would practice more on how to get out of their own zone, how to hit the net when they shoot, and how to run plays in the offensive zone. I feel that the coaching staff doesn’t put enough focus on those three areas.
I think Ehrhoff is a find. He’s quick and strong and has quality offensive talent for a Dman. Mistakes happen to everyone, OK, maybe not Lidstrom or SOP:)
I feel Kesler is award worthy.
The past 3 seasons (yeah, even the middle one) the team has hit a positive groove, often as a necessity to compensate for injury. And they remain in that groove for the most part. I think they’ve hit that groove this season.

by Bobby Canuck on Oct 27, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I wish they would practice more on how to get out of their own zone

Yeah, I agree with that. And not just get it out but then transition to some offense after that. Drives me nuts when they just get to center ice and dump it, especially when there isn’t a change. That’s been a staple of AV’s for awhile now.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 27, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still think dump-and-chase is the Canucks’ biggest offensive weakness. A guy like Pronger can clog up your offense so fast when you dump it in… images of Anaheim come to mind every time I contemplate it.

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s only because Pronger commits an interference penalty on every dump in…fortunately for him, the refs are under orders not to call it.

I am joking. I think.

by Jevant on Oct 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you saying the Canucks should have a break out? That’s blasphemy.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know.

/smacks self on hand

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 27, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m, not sure if I’m agreeing with you guys on this one. So to prove my point I am going to count how many times they do it or not….well at least until the rum blurs my vision a bit. :)

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do what attempt an actual breakout? Or complete one?

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

After re-reading those comments I mean how many times they dump in or carry it in.

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh ok. That’s actually interesting I look forward to the results of this study.

by Section 312 on Oct 27, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like I said though, I’ll be putting back a few spiced rum and cokes, watching it with some friends, and yapping on here. I’ll be as accurate as possible, but it’s going to be generalized in the end :)

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, except I’m white and hate gangster rap :)

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 27, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lidstrom comparisons don't really work

Sorry, but Lidstrom is a unique player of his generation. No one is going to be the next Lidstrom.

by nucksandpucks on Oct 27, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Ad made me laugh!

Point granted about Lidstrom. Rafalski was probably the better example of a workhorse, and I could have thrown in Pronger, Chara, etc.. There’re certain guys out there who can eat up phenomenal minutes and prevent scoring for the majority of that time, and we don’t have one!

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by NebCanuck on Oct 27, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

That Lidstrom comparison and the SOP one were toungue in cheek. Lidstrom is quite definitely in a class of his own and can’t be compred to anyone else.
Looking beyond this year to CoHo, Shroeder, Oberg, Rodin, etc..gives me a warm feeling.

by Bobby Canuck on Oct 27, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only

if they give them a real chance, and judging by how they have treated top young prospects so far, I don’t see that as likely.

by yoata on Oct 27, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow Ned - great post

Just home and settling in after work. Read the post and read the comments very thoughtful post and fantastic discussion.

I think the ship is righting itself thanks to Lou, the Kesler line and a resurgent defence. The story tonight will be Lou (as always) and Schneider.

The Wings are wounded and desperate. Lou will be peppered – hope he and our defence are up for it. Cool and calm under fire will be the key.

by Kelownakid on Oct 27, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

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Bieksa (148)

Blocked Shots

Kesler (56)

Edler (120)

ES TOI/G

D. Sedin (14.46)

Bieksa (18.22)

PP TOI/G

D. Sedin (3.21)

Edler (3.25)

PK TOI/G

Malhotra (2.42)

Hamhuis (2.88)

Corsi Rel QoC

Pahlsson (1.008)

Bieksa (0.875)

Zone Starts (OPCT)

D. Sedin (80%)
Malhotra (12%)

Edler (58%)
Alberts (40%)

Updated: March 24


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