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Lack Of Sleep, Injuries & The M-Schneids Experience

3:40 PM PST Update: Well this sure brightened my outlook for tonight's game: Luongo will start for us and Jeff Deslauriers will play between the pipes for the Oilers.

1:48 PM ET Update: Good catch by TheLastJohnny:

BotchonCanucks: Kyle Wellwood has a broken toe, so Canucks have recalled Sergei Shirokov

The enigmatic (ha!) Russian returns, but where he slots in is another matter. Probably the third line since you don't dare mess with Kesler's line. But the Sedin line was invisible last night too. Could he end up on the top line again?

As for Pudge, he'll be on the shelf for three weeks.

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As the first month of hockey draws to a close, Colorado is eight points ahead of Vancouver and tied with Pittsburgh for the best team in the league. So the two points against Toronto and the two points up for grabs tonight against Edmonton are vital if they're going to crawl back into Western Conference relevancy.

First thing's first: the Leafs game. The win was nice, the execution not so much. Grabner and Raymond? Good. That third period? Atrocious. If the Leafs weren't so snakebitten at the moment, they probably would have at least pushed OT if not outright won the contest.

And you know what a bad game means? We get Tony Gallagher. Brace yourself.

Star-divide

This was easily the Vancouver Canucks' worst performance of the season by a wide margin and after 10 games, a pattern is beginning to emerge that presents a profoundly disturbing picture to anyone who happens to have paid for season tickets.

I guess Tony missed those Calgary games. And he doesn't really define any pattern that's so profoundly disturbing other than to suggest Aaron Rome is terrible, Ryan Johnson can't win a defensive face-off to save his life and Henrik Sedin looks lost without Daniel (all of which were true last night). Then again, he seems to downplay the fact the Canucks are laughably riddled with injuries and - along with Rome - are relying on the likes of Grabner (2A), Glass (blew up Schenn) and Bolduc to help patch the holes. Down two snipers and having three AHL'ers strung across three lines will generally hurt any team. But blaming injuries for sleeping through half of the Leafs game is no excuse.

And that injury parade keeps humming along: While Demo may actually play this year, Edler may have hurt his shoulder and Pudge may have a broken toe (queue up the jokes appropriately). Rypien is still a game time decision.

So while it's great that Mr. Mathieu Schneider will likely suit up for his first Vancouver game tonight against Edmonton, he alone won't solve the disappearance of the first and third lines. He should, however, give the PP a boost in the arm. The two PPG's last night pushed the Canucks to fourth best in the league, but that's being generous, especially facing the league's worst PK. They played terribly around the perimeter and didn't fully test MacDonald over eight penalties. Of Schneider's 221 career goals, 99 have come on the man advantage (that includes six of his nine goals last year). It should be easier on the eyes and heartrate to see him in the point instead of Sammy.

The Oil should be in a foul mood, having their three game winning streak snapped last night in a 5-2 loss against the Flames. Not only did they lose the chippy affair, Edmonton was also down five players to injury with a handful more suffering from the flu. So, depending on the morning skate, the expected lines should be:

Penner - Gagner - Hemsky
Moreau - Horcoff - O'Sullivan
Jacques - Cogliano - Nilsson
Studwick - Stortini - MacIntyre

Visnovsky - Smid
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
Peckham - Chorney

Khabibulin

Khabibulin represents the first first-string goalie they will have played in the past two games so they can't rely on the Kesler line to solely put them over the top again. Which probably means that's exactly what will happen.

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BotchonCanucks: Kyle Wellwood has a broken toe, so Canucks have recalled Sergei Shirokov

Welly’s been pretty ineffective, so let’s just hope Shirokov at least does better than him.

by thelastjohnny on Oct 25, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh my, great catch. I’ll update post.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wellwood is making me look like an ass. I’ve been a huge Woodrow fan for years and supported the decision to get him last year and even extend him this year. Lately, he’s just filling a roster spot and that’s about it. Not good enough. Shirokov is an upgrade on Wellwood before he even hits the ice.

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a load of crap!!!! You’re thinkin with your heart and not your head.

by Nuckels on Oct 25, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uh, which part are you referring to?

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Rypien is hurt...

then who is Stortini going to try to hug?

by nucksandpucks on Oct 25, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Unleash the Glass!

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

To be honest, I didn’t shit myself at all when Lou was laying there. I know pathetic when I see it. Oh well, at least he can stop pucks!

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions  

He’s such a soccer player…

...loving life for Christ's glory...

by NebCanuck on Oct 25, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well…maybe sometimes Nebraska.

I tend ro give a guy that gets kneed to the back of the head a few minutes to let the cobwebs clear.

Thats just me. Sometimes he does express himself flamboyantly, but that one was pretty hard to critique.

And later when Blake was hacking away at his hand well after the whistle in the 3rd. I hate that guy….

LOL

vancitydan

by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I posted this in that last comments thread, but probably no one saw it, and it’s more relevant here. (Again, apologies for the stats look):

Important point as we look at Edmonton’s surprising start:
http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/?hubname=nhl-oilers

Lot of Oilers who are career 10 percent or less shooters who are shooting over 20 percent right now (including Penner at 28%, but also Gagner, Visnovsky, Brule, Grebeshkov, Comrie, Cogliano). That’s a shooting percentage that’s definitely not going to last.

Most important stat for us in Canuckland: after yesterday, Lui’s save percentage continues to climb. I’m guessing there’ll be less and less Canucks tipping pucks pass him as they work out the kinks, and the lines solidify some. Hopefully Schneider won’t do this today. 4-2 Canucks (Raymond & Samuelsson on PP, Burrows, Bieksa. Gagner & Brule the other way). Go Canucks Go!

by antro on Oct 25, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

No apologies necessary for sharing the stats Antro. Penner is playing out of his mind, I didn’t realize the effect MacTavish had on him.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nothin like a weekend back to back

AKA: Linix129

by sw12 on Oct 25, 2009 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Good news

Wellfed was invisible, give the young guns a chance!

by yoata on Oct 25, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions  

You mean another chance.

I've seen enough to know that I've seen too much.

by Smoboy41 on Oct 25, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions  

At least Wellwood broke his toe blocking a Komisarek shot, not from stubbing it running away from Ronald McDonald.

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

That’s just what the LIBERAL media wants you to think

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

lines posted (?)

this is what canucks.com is saying:

sammy – henrik – burrows
grabner – kesler – raymond
shirok – bolduc – bernier
glass – johnson – hordichuk

mitchell – edler
o’brien – bieksa
schneider – ehrhoff

luongo
raycroft

http://canuckpuckbunny.blogspot.com
GO CANUCKS GO!

by missy on Oct 25, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

that is a fugly third line. and I guess ripper is out again.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, Schneider is supposed to be the defensive anchor when Ehrhoff gets stuck up ice? And Bolduc is now the 3rd line centre. I haven’t been able to see games—is he playing well?

by antro on Oct 25, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Bolduc has been fine. Seems strong on the puck and generally makes the right decisions. A decent plugger. But him centering Shirok and Bernier is curious. I’m surprised they didn’t bump johnson up between them.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t it make more sense to play Samuelsson with Kesler and Raymond (seeing as they’ll be the second line when Daniel gets back) and put Grabner with Henrik and Burrows?

Bring me Stanley. Alive if possible, dead... just as good.

by King Luongshanks on Oct 25, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t touch the second line honestly. They’re too good right now.

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone on twitter suggested the first line being Shirokov, Sedin, and Samuelson, and having Burrows centering Bolduc and Bernier.

You know, I didn’t realize the alliteration until typing it out myself.

by thelastjohnny on Oct 25, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually thought about that myself, I wouldn’t be surprised if AV tries it at some point in the game.

I’m not sure if Shirokov fits outside the top 6.

by cyxj on Oct 25, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agree with that Yankee. I thought RJ would move up too. But I have noticed that the “other” Alexandre is quicker than people give him credit for.

Stone Hands can play along the boards, and Bolduc can set up the sniper.

Did they play together on the Moose, or did Bolduc get called up before that. I can’t remember with all the ups and downs from Winnipeg.

You’d have to think Shirokov would have a better idea of the N.A game now, and be enthused to do what Grabner is currently doing.

vancitydan

by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

All Shirok has to do is equal Pudge’s one assist. I think he can do that. :)

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

i’m sure that shirok and bolduc played together with the moose.
pretty sure bolduc was called up to replace rypien, and that’s just been within the last week.

http://canuckpuckbunny.blogspot.com
GO CANUCKS GO!

by missy on Oct 25, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

BTW…just my opinion, but it really is time for that deluded old fuck Gallagher to retire.

Seriously. He makes these bitchy moaning columnist ( so I can say anything because its just my “opinion”) pronouncements like he really thinks his opinion means anything to people. He sure believes his outlook on the team is more important is more germane than yours or mine. One only has to listen to his whiny radio “guest” spots on 1040 for that.

Yeah, we all saw the game Tony, we saw everything you did. It sucked, but not to the level of suckage you “pronounced”, you tired old fuck.

Just ignore the line that scored all the goals and had 14 shots. How about starting your story on them and Luongo than making your apoplectic delusional point?

Tool.

Sorry guys, I can’t even read a whole column of that whiny bitch before turning the page. That rant was building for a while. Thanks for letting me vent! ;-)

Thank god I don’t actually buy the paper very often.

vancitydan

by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions  

If I had paid for seasons tickets

I’d be damned glad that my team managed to beat an extremely motivated Leafs squad despite several key injuries.

by Temujin on Oct 25, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah…sorry for the rant guys…feel like Cartman with his friends, especially Kyle.

“I hate that guy”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W6mqn5xE1Y

Well, in the context of the song, I guess Tony is my “Kenny”

vancitydan

by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

We are in trouble, Shirokov will be useless and you’ll all know it by the end of the night. He has potential, but his game is nowhere near good enough for the NHL right now. I’m hopin that Gillis starts shoppin a little, we need a top 6 forward in a bad way and there are apparently a few out there that would fit the bill.
I suppose the only positive is that our injuries are happenin now and instead of in the last month of the season.
As for tonight, we should handle the Oilers fairly easily. They played a terrible game last night in Calgary, and I can’t see them being able to fix it that quick for tonight. The clock is approachin midnight on Edmontons surprise start, and the numbers can’t support them continuin there winnin ways much longer.
Nucks win in a romp 6-1

by Nuckels on Oct 25, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

They've also got several players battling the flu, apparently.

Wish I could be as optimistic as you, but I’m nervous that we’ll screw the pooch tonight.

by Temujin on Oct 25, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who

have you heard is out there?

by yoata on Oct 25, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say 4-3 Oilers, but with them starting Jeff Deslauriers and Van with Luongo, I’ll say 4-3 Canucks.

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Well there goes my comment about facing a first string netminder for a change

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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 25, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

as long as we keep winning! Let’s face 2nd stringers all year!

by Sean Zandberg on Oct 25, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s gonna be a close game, 3-2 Oilers in the SO.

by cyxj on Oct 25, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

4-2, with the Oil getting their 2 in the second to not match the two the Canucks get in the first and third.

Last one an empty netter…

vancitydan

by vancitydan on Oct 25, 2009 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

If Lu

is in net, I say 2-0 shutout for the good guys.

by yoata on Oct 25, 2009 6:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

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