Game 1: Flames 5 Canucks 3
A disappointing start to the season for the Canucks. The Flames struck early and often in the first period to gain a 3-0 lead and the Canucks never fully recovered. By the time the Canucks got their legs going, outshooting the Flames 35-15 in the 2nd and 3rd periods, it was too late. Miikka Kiprusoff wasn't soft at all, shutting the Canucks down on all their good, great and sub-par chances.
I'm going to throw out a few blunt observations in point form and you can tell me if you agree or not.
-Sergei Shirokov: Welcome to the NHL. Now play like a man. I have never liked divers or over-acting, Luongo included.
-I mentioned this before the season started and I will re-iterate it again: Are you not entertained? Yeah, the Canucks are perhaps even more offence-orientated this season, but that style of play creates more chances against. I stated in the game thread that I missed a guy like Brad Lukowich already, because he is a stable defenceman in his own end. Why are the Canucks playing 5 (Shane O'Brien included-m'eh) offensive defencemen?
Where is the balance? I'll take 2 more guys like Mitchell and Lukowich on our back end and structured play over this madness.
Under their new coach, the Flames will have structure in their play, and it will work.
-Crash bang! Was it just the red-as-hell old school jerseys or did the Flames look bigger tonight. Thundering hits to guys like Ryan Johnson and Daniel Sedin didn't help.
-So instead of talking about Rick Rypien beating the tar out of Brandon Prust, the latter scores the winning goal. Yay!
-It's just game 1 of the season. Vancouver has several new faces in their lineup and everyone needs time to gel. Preseason did not give the Canucks that. They were too busy playing the hopefuls are did not dress many lineups that fully resembled their opening night roster.
Calgary wanted to "make a statement" in their final preseason game against the Canucks, but waited until tonight to do it.
QUOTED:
“I’m not sitting here and doing handstands and thinking we played a great game, but we played a pretty darned good game for 38 minutes,” Brent Sutter said. “We backed off, and that’s where we have to continue to work and push.
Our goalie played very well. It’s two points and it’s a good win. There’s work to be done.”
"You can't spot a team like that two and three-goal leads and expect to win. Penalties are an area we have to get better as a group." - Alain Vigneault
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i’m okay with the defense as it is constituted, because i think they will provide a lot more offense this year and they are not much less sound defensively than last year. erhoff is going to make a few mistakes on the back end but he was making some great breakout passes and he gets back to dump ins a lot quicker than ohlund did. add to that SOB looks quicker, although still prone to the dumb penalty (big shocker) and all of the defense did a great job of pinching down the boards to keep pucks in. keep this in mind too, for offensive dmen edler and especially salo are very good defensively.
one thing i was not very happy with was the 4th line, individually and as a group. the team was down 3-0, taking the brunt of the physical plays and where was the spark? i want to see some big momentum-changing, yard sale hits and a scrap or two. rypien especially looked almost disinterested and was directly responsible for both powerplay goals.
I also thought those bright red retro jerseys made the flames look bigger and more intimidating, must be something with how the color contrasted against theice.
flames looked scary for the first half of this one. shirokov looked like the greenhorn he is, bobbling a handful of scoring chances. mitchell was also pretty painful to watch during a few offensive pushes late in the game, but that’s not his fault he and his stick were built for defense not offense.
samuelsson looked good as the game wore on, gritty and looks like he hates losing important games like these ones.
It may not be only the jersey’s. The flames are a bigger team this year, especially on defense. When Sarich is back with them, Phaneuf is the smallest other than Giordano.
6’0 – 203 – Gio,
6’3 – 209 – Stralman,
6’3 – 214 – Phaneuf
6’3 – 225 – Reggie
6’4 – 209 – Sarich (injured)
6’4 – 212 – Pardy
6’4 – 212 – JBo
D for 3 and now goal for 21 years, of course I'm a goaltender apologist.
Still not as big as Washington’s D….jeezus those are some big defenders.
D for 3 and now goal for 21 years, of course I'm a goaltender apologist.
I thought Iginla was Hakan Loob for a while there, haha!
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m trying to maintain my composure too. This is why I hate high expectations.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
3 things
1) The penalties called in the first period were especially ridiculous, but it was a bizarre refereeing game all around. I think it more or less balanced out in the end, but the 2 ridiculously soft calls (and O’Brien’s wasn’t exactly a strong call either) and a bizarre non-call on Phaneuf’s elbow to Daniel’s head…what was into them last night? Although the calls evened out, the 1st period decided the game.
2) Shirokov. The preseason is different from the regular season. He looked fairly overmatched out there.
3) Samuelsson. I liked him alot. Scored and then gives the Calgary d-man a two hander across the ass. Looks like he played with a mean streak, which this team needed a bit more of in them last night.
I thought the Cancuks were largely the better team. The Flames were opportunistic to start the game and Kipper managed to hang on by the end.
Also – I was actually fairly impressed with Shirokov given that he’s a rookie.
I was going to say re: Shirokov….Cut him some slack, it’s his first game. Even Weekes was harping on him after two periods when the bulk of the team wasn’t doing much either. Overall I thought he played fine. His timing was off (especially during the last PP) but that will come with time. Shirokov is far from a concern.
Taking the first period off is a definite concern. I cannot count how many times Vancouver slept walk into the first period of games last year only to come alive towards the end. Especially for a team traveling as much as they are this season, that simply won’t cut it. They can’t come from behind 82 games. AV needs to figure that out.
Calgary’s fourth line was on fire last night, which helped considering their first last all but disappeared. You can’t say the same thing about Vancouver; Johnson, Hordichuk and Rypien were outmatched.
Our third line was largely invisible too. Bernier had his moments (which is good) and Raymond throwing his body around is humorous if nothing else. Pudge finished -1 with no SOG.
The positives were Bieksa, Burrows, Edler and Samuelsson. Each played soundly and gave you a lot to look forward to.
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by Yankee Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions
I was hacking Shirokov’s “diving”. Plus, and I hate to say it, but I think he’s going to end up on the IR soon. If he doesn’t, I think he’ll do alright.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh I can see that. Little guy playing a big game. Get Martin St. Louis on the phone for tips.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Three? No we usually do a pregame that runs most of the day, then a gamethread for the actual game and then a recap. Pretty standard.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I sense yoata will now lecture you on why that is wrong, how you’re intentionally undermining the game thread by creating a postgame thread, and how that was your plan all along.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 8:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I sense nothing. The Force has left me.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Just a question
No need to be a dickhead about it.
Just seems a little redundant to me but carry-on.
Didn’t mean to offend. Tongue-in-cheek remarks sort of tends to be the tone around here. Sorry.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
No problem. I’ve been called far worse things, and deservedly so!
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts on the game is “same old same old”. Stupid SOB penalty and stupid Sedin penalty cost us the game. Only playing 2 periods cost us the game. Etc. Nothing new here.
I also thought Kevin Weekes sucked. Granted, he is new at this. Since he was formerly our much-touted “goalie of the future”, I shall from now brand him the “colour commentator of the future” to signifying the great esteem he holds in my mind.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 8:56 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Also frustrating was both Sedins could have tied it in the third, especially Hank.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions
That was a great save by Kipper though. Had to roof it.
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh totally. That’s a tie game if it had elevation.
'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.
by Yankee Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts on the game is "same old same old".
Spent the 2nd period listening to the Stars from Montreal out of disgust, but what I did see in the 1st was our ongoing inability to get the puck out of our own end.
How’s about giving two rookies, ’Rok and Weekes some slack (although Weekes does need to add some excitement to his voice ala our Tommy).
Speaking of Montreal….ah damn those poor Habs losing Markov for several months, heh?
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck that! Luko is getting a job here soon, if he’d clear re-entry waivers…..Ah damn. Nevermind
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Canucks in the 1st period looked, in their own zone, like they weren’t really sure who was supposed to take the puck out of the zone, or how.
Later, the Flames sat back and nursed their lead, so the Canucks offence was called upon, and they looked great.
I guess that sums up what they’ve been working on.
Sean,
Your points are well taken, but it’s also early in the year. Yeah, they can’t overdo the O at the expense of D, and their first effort at rebalancing went overboard. I’d still like to see ’em move a little, just not so much.
To be honest, I’m not too worried about our d-men. They had a terrible night, but the odd-man rushes were about even. The ones that killed me were the open slot goals and letting Dion Phaneuf get his shot off from the point so easily. Those kind of plays are normally held in check by the blue line, but not tonight. That being said, I was happy with their offensive contributions.
Shirokov did alright. He was fast, and at times, carried the play. His offensive upside is undoubtable. Unfortunately he has to adjust to the game over here and he was 100% mismatched in the corners. He took a legit slash and went down, but I thought that hich stick was embellished soccer-style.
Our penalty trouble, and our sleeping out of the gate, continues this season.
But, let’s call it how it is, Luongo had a bad start and gave up 3 goals in 7 shots. They were quality chances, but your star goaltender has to stop quality chances. He didn’t find his game until later in the 2nd, after that atrocious Prust goal, and by then the Flames were on their heels. Kipper played great and played the type of game that allowed Calgary to survive the barrage that was the 2nd half of the game. It’s one of those rare occasions where goaltending wins the game, but Luongo is on the losing side of that duel.
Well Lou did say he sure as hell could not see that one goal. There were 6 bodies in the way!
by Sean Zandberg on Oct 2, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts:
-Show up for the 1st period!
-Shirokov looked alright, I trust him with the puck. I really hope he doesn’t get hurt because of his size.
-Too many dumb penalties.
-4th line was invisible. As were Wellwood and Kesler.
-Burrows, Sammy and Edler impressed me.
-I like how they started pumping shots at the net in the 2nd half of the game. Sure they don’t go in most of the time, but they can look for rebounds and at least they can get a faceoff in the O-zone to set up better chances.
I like how they started pumping shots at the net in the 2nd half of the game. Sure they don’t go in most of the time, but they can look for rebounds and at least they can get a faceoff in the O-zone to set up better chances.
Absolutely.
Bingo. Burrows goal didn’t happen by accident.
by Beantown Canuck on Oct 2, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions

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